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If you own a small business and aren’t getting government help

Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:51 am
Posted by LoneStar23
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:51 am
What incentive do you have to stay closed? Are they arresting people for opening businesses?
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 9:00 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:52 am to
Apparently you could have been open all along. JBE just didn’t tell you. But decided to clarify 8 weeks into the ordeal in a manner that insinuated the business owner didn’t properly read the mess of an EO.

This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 8:55 am
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8624 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:54 am to
He can "only tell you the facts, can't make you understand them"



forgot to close my sarc tag
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 8:55 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:55 am to
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He can "only tell you the facts, can't make you understand them"


Did he really say this?!?
Posted by White Bear
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:57 am to
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Apparently you could have been open all along. JBE just didn’t tell you. But decided to clarify 8 weeks into the ordeal in a manner that insinuated the business owner didn’t properly read the mess of an EO.
This has really given me the 3rd degree redass.
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:01 am to
He stated very clearly on March 22 to refer to the CISA guidelines for which businesses could be open.

If someone is a business owner and didn’t make sure that they had to close - that’s on them and speaks volumes about their ability to run a business.

LINK to the Press Release

LINK to the CISA guidelines
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 9:06 am
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:07 am to
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He stated very clearly on March 22 to refer to the CISA guidelines for which businesses could be open. If someone is a business owner and didn’t make sure that they had to close - that’s on them and speaks volumes about their ability to run a business.
Read JBE's EO "Proclamation No. 41 JBE 2020" and you tell us who is able to stay open and remain in business. I'll make it easier for you: JBE EO
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61810 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:10 am to
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Are they arresting people for opening businesses?




No, but they have many ways to revoke permits and stuff like that.

Very few restaurants can make money only serving to go food because hardly anyone buys alcohol in that situation.
Bars can't make money selling to-go drinks if they are open.
He's just a dumb arse and needs to shut his pie hole and let us get on with our lives.
Posted by Art Vandelay
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:12 am to
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Read JBE's EO "Proclamation No. 41 JBE 2020" and you tell us who is able to stay open and remain in business. I'll make it easier for you: JBE EO


Can anyone link the original order.
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:12 am to
Per your "LINK to the Press Release" "People can leave their homes to do essential things like buying groceries or food, pick up medicine or go to work only if their job is essential" (emphasis added)

Please explain, the essential jobs are specifically listed. So considering the excerpt above, who outside of essential are able to continue working?
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21876 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:12 am to
We ( wife and I) both work and we also own a daycare with around a hundred kids with twenty two employees. We applied for the small business loan but didn’t get it We thought our insurance ( we have GAP) would hopefully help, nope. Our Center is opening back in two weeks but I don’t know how we come out of this hole .. we may have to shut down
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:14 am to
I just linked it above you.

And no - I’m not going to read a 13 page executive order to decide if some dude on TD can open their business.

But if my business was relying on this - I would’ve had the EO memorized and then reviewed by multiple independent sources to double check my decision to open or close.

It sounds like there were business owners that read “Stay At Home” and then immediately shut their doors.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481222 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:14 am to
the Supreme Court would likely have a word with me

they've also closed courts which has shut me down for the most part. i don't do transactional work
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481222 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:18 am to
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But if my business was relying on this - I would’ve had the EO memorized and then reviewed by multiple independent sources to double check my decision to open or close.

with how spastic and punitive various governments have been, you have to add in a ton of risk to any decision that may defy the order

they keep changing the rules and interpretations on the fly so anyone with licensure is at a real risk
Posted by Mr Wonderful
Love City
Member since Oct 2015
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:19 am to
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This has really given me the 3rd degree redass.

See my sig quote.

I think at this point we all must realize we're dealing with an absolutely retarded, alien-looking mother fricker.
Posted by White Bear
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Member since Jul 2014
17815 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:21 am to
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And no - I’m not going to read a 13 page executive order to decide if some dude on TD can open their business.
Read the first 3 pages of the EO I linked, not the press release, and get back to us on your interpretation. It's important to your take on the situation. thx.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30218 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:22 am to
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If you own a small business and aren’t getting government help


...then you're doing it wrong. The money machine is printing at warp speed and y'all have to do is stick your hand out in front of it and grab a few bills.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:23 am to
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they keep changing the rules and interpretations on the fly so anyone with licensure is at a real risk


Correct. My wife’s business is CISA essential but a division of the state agency that holds her license said they had to close/work remote.

We challenged it. But it took 3 weeks to get a “ruling”. They also never went back and updated the language to clarify our “ruling”.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 9:24 am
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
56641 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:26 am to
I've stayed open for the duration. Closing was never an option. frick the gubment.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:27 am to
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But if my business was relying on this - I would’ve had the EO memorized and then reviewed by multiple independent sources to double check my decision to open or close.

It sounds like there were business owners that read “Stay At Home” and then immediately shut their doors.


Jayce -

Section 2, subsection A lists 7 things that the individual can do. None of them include shopping at “non-essential retail”.

So yes, the business could remain open. But customers were prohibited from going.
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