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re: If you own a small business and aren’t getting government help

Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:27 am to
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:27 am to
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If you own a small business and aren’t getting government help

What incentive do you have to stay closed?


what incentive do you have for not getting help?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:27 am to
clearly there was a left turn in the state b/c the Supreme Court has largely been telegraphing JBE's orders

prior to his emergency extension to May 15, the LASC had things opening up on May 4 (except jury trials)

after JBE's course reversal, no in-person court until May 18

also, just as a more micro example, courts have responded to the LASC/JBE orders very differently. if judges can't interpret these rules at even close to a single interpretation, how the hell do we expect normal laypeople to interpret the orders "correctly"?

hell, if this was really how JBE interpreted his EO, why weren't his comms people saying this weeks ago when temperatures started to rise? why wait until this cluster frick of a week where there is a lot of smoke the admin changed their mind after making opposing assurances?
Posted by Mr Wonderful
Love City
Member since Oct 2015
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:29 am to
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But if my business was relying on this - I would’ve had the EO memorized and then reviewed by multiple independent sources to double check my decision to open or close.

No you would not.
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It sounds like there were business owners that read “Stay At Home” and then immediately shut their doors.

The EO said to do so. Now alien-boy says he never shut anything.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:29 am to
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then you're doing it wrong.


Many businesses and self employed individuals haven't seen a penny for 6 weeks and they're doing it right. I talk to thes people daily at work. Some are pretty desperate.
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:32 am to
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So yes, the business could remain open. But customers were prohibited from going


Seems like that’s a decision that the business owner needs to make.
Posted by thadcastle
Member since Dec 2019
2843 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:34 am to
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Many businesses and self employed individuals haven't seen a penny for 6 weeks and they're doing it right. I talk to thes people daily at work. Some are pretty desperate.

You may need to reevaluate who you are using for your CPA and bank. A good bank and CPA should be able to get you approved and get money coming in.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9750 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:35 am to
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The money machine is printing at warp speed and y'all have to do is stick your hand out in front of it and grab a few bills.



Many small businesses are the runt of the litter in this regard and not getting a single bite behind the pack of big dogs.


Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:39 am to
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No you would not.


Ok- you got me. It wouldn’t have been memorized. But yes, I would’ve 100% known if I could be open or not.

And then I would’ve evaluated the cost of being open vs the cost of being closed and made the right financial decision for myself and my business.

quote:

The EO said to do so


Stop reading headlines

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Now alien-boy


Oh, I see who I’m talking to. Carry on
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
4867 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:39 am to
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Seems like that’s a decision that the business owner needs to make.

Spoken like a true piece of shite, who never had a real job, much less balls enough to put their life savings into starting a business that may never recover. What do JBE’s balls taste like? You got a hell of a suction on those things you fat frick.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 9:41 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:41 am to
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Seems like that’s a decision that the business owner needs to make.


Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:41 am to
Up here there was a bar in Nampa that decided to open up. He released a statement that basically amounted to "I'm opening up and if you don't like it, tough shite." I haven't heard anything more about it. If he was arrested it would have likely made headlines.

There was a bar in the North End of Boise that did drinks outside while you waited for your curbside pickup that got pretty packed. People called the police but I don't think anything happened.

I think local jurisdictions are terrified of the repercussions of enforcing an arguably unconstitutional mandate. As much as I think business should adhere to experts' advice, I'm not really in favor of law enforcement physically removing healthy people from a place of business because they might be sick. And I don't think any public figure that seeks re-election wants to be the one to make that call when they realize the weight it bears.
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:41 am to
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Spoken like a true piece of shite, who’s never had a real job, much less balls enough to put their life savings into starting a business that may never recover. What do JBE’s balls taste like? You got a hell of a suction on those things you fat frick.


Lol - Ok. This convo started because business owners supposedly didn’t understand the rules of being open vs being closed.

I just felt that was a pretty lazy argument for a business owner that “has their entire life savings” invested in a business.

And now - I’m a “piece of shite”, “fat”, and “never had a job”. You sure are big and mean behind that keyboard.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 9:48 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30218 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:41 am to
The first round of PPP was chaotic, but this second round, while not perfectly smooth sailing, is getting out to a lot more small and very small businesses. If you didn't get in on the first round, then you had time to get your numbers together and find a bank that would help you for the second round.

I'll admit the EIDL has been a disaster, but people are finally starting to get funded for those.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:43 am to
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but this second round, while not perfectly smooth sailing, is getting out to a lot more small and very small businesses.


Still, many saw no revenue and still haven't, for over a month.

Fr the self employed who are at the bottom of the list, this is crushing their families.
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:43 am to
I get it. It’s not an easy decision.

Do I stay open with minimal income? Or do I close the doors and seek any financial assistance that I can get?

These times are obviously tough and many people won’t recover. But this conversation started because someone made the comment that businesses were closed because they didn’t understand the rules.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61810 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:46 am to
Kindly go frick yourself
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:48 am to
What did I say that hurt your feelings so badly?
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
4867 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:49 am to
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You sure are big and mean behind that keyboard..

I’m happy to oblige outside of a keyboard if you prefer?
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 9:50 am
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:51 am to
Ok... sonic?
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 9:52 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481222 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:52 am to
pretty sure you can resolve this at Sonic today since it's not dine in
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