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re: If you own a small business and aren’t getting government help
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:27 am to LoneStar23
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:27 am to LoneStar23
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If you own a small business and aren’t getting government help
What incentive do you have to stay closed?
what incentive do you have for not getting help?
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:27 am to Golfer
clearly there was a left turn in the state b/c the Supreme Court has largely been telegraphing JBE's orders
prior to his emergency extension to May 15, the LASC had things opening up on May 4 (except jury trials)
after JBE's course reversal, no in-person court until May 18
also, just as a more micro example, courts have responded to the LASC/JBE orders very differently. if judges can't interpret these rules at even close to a single interpretation, how the hell do we expect normal laypeople to interpret the orders "correctly"?
hell, if this was really how JBE interpreted his EO, why weren't his comms people saying this weeks ago when temperatures started to rise? why wait until this cluster frick of a week where there is a lot of smoke the admin changed their mind after making opposing assurances?
prior to his emergency extension to May 15, the LASC had things opening up on May 4 (except jury trials)
after JBE's course reversal, no in-person court until May 18
also, just as a more micro example, courts have responded to the LASC/JBE orders very differently. if judges can't interpret these rules at even close to a single interpretation, how the hell do we expect normal laypeople to interpret the orders "correctly"?
hell, if this was really how JBE interpreted his EO, why weren't his comms people saying this weeks ago when temperatures started to rise? why wait until this cluster frick of a week where there is a lot of smoke the admin changed their mind after making opposing assurances?
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:29 am to lsufishnhunt
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But if my business was relying on this - I would’ve had the EO memorized and then reviewed by multiple independent sources to double check my decision to open or close.
No you would not.
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It sounds like there were business owners that read “Stay At Home” and then immediately shut their doors.
The EO said to do so. Now alien-boy says he never shut anything.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:29 am to BottomlandBrew
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then you're doing it wrong.
Many businesses and self employed individuals haven't seen a penny for 6 weeks and they're doing it right. I talk to thes people daily at work. Some are pretty desperate.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:32 am to Golfer
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So yes, the business could remain open. But customers were prohibited from going
Seems like that’s a decision that the business owner needs to make.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Many businesses and self employed individuals haven't seen a penny for 6 weeks and they're doing it right. I talk to thes people daily at work. Some are pretty desperate.
You may need to reevaluate who you are using for your CPA and bank. A good bank and CPA should be able to get you approved and get money coming in.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:35 am to BottomlandBrew
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The money machine is printing at warp speed and y'all have to do is stick your hand out in front of it and grab a few bills.
Many small businesses are the runt of the litter in this regard and not getting a single bite behind the pack of big dogs.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:39 am to Mr Wonderful
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No you would not.
Ok- you got me. It wouldn’t have been memorized. But yes, I would’ve 100% known if I could be open or not.
And then I would’ve evaluated the cost of being open vs the cost of being closed and made the right financial decision for myself and my business.
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The EO said to do so
Stop reading headlines
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Now alien-boy
Oh, I see who I’m talking to. Carry on
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:39 am to lsufishnhunt
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Seems like that’s a decision that the business owner needs to make.
Spoken like a true piece of shite, who never had a real job, much less balls enough to put their life savings into starting a business that may never recover. What do JBE’s balls taste like? You got a hell of a suction on those things you fat frick.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 9:41 am
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:41 am to lsufishnhunt
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Seems like that’s a decision that the business owner needs to make.

Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:41 am to LoneStar23
Up here there was a bar in Nampa that decided to open up. He released a statement that basically amounted to "I'm opening up and if you don't like it, tough shite." I haven't heard anything more about it. If he was arrested it would have likely made headlines.
There was a bar in the North End of Boise that did drinks outside while you waited for your curbside pickup that got pretty packed. People called the police but I don't think anything happened.
I think local jurisdictions are terrified of the repercussions of enforcing an arguably unconstitutional mandate. As much as I think business should adhere to experts' advice, I'm not really in favor of law enforcement physically removing healthy people from a place of business because they might be sick. And I don't think any public figure that seeks re-election wants to be the one to make that call when they realize the weight it bears.
There was a bar in the North End of Boise that did drinks outside while you waited for your curbside pickup that got pretty packed. People called the police but I don't think anything happened.
I think local jurisdictions are terrified of the repercussions of enforcing an arguably unconstitutional mandate. As much as I think business should adhere to experts' advice, I'm not really in favor of law enforcement physically removing healthy people from a place of business because they might be sick. And I don't think any public figure that seeks re-election wants to be the one to make that call when they realize the weight it bears.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:41 am to Passing Wind
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Spoken like a true piece of shite, who’s never had a real job, much less balls enough to put their life savings into starting a business that may never recover. What do JBE’s balls taste like? You got a hell of a suction on those things you fat frick.
Lol - Ok. This convo started because business owners supposedly didn’t understand the rules of being open vs being closed.
I just felt that was a pretty lazy argument for a business owner that “has their entire life savings” invested in a business.
And now - I’m a “piece of shite”, “fat”, and “never had a job”. You sure are big and mean behind that keyboard.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 9:48 am
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:41 am to wm72
The first round of PPP was chaotic, but this second round, while not perfectly smooth sailing, is getting out to a lot more small and very small businesses. If you didn't get in on the first round, then you had time to get your numbers together and find a bank that would help you for the second round.
I'll admit the EIDL has been a disaster, but people are finally starting to get funded for those.
I'll admit the EIDL has been a disaster, but people are finally starting to get funded for those.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:43 am to BottomlandBrew
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but this second round, while not perfectly smooth sailing, is getting out to a lot more small and very small businesses.
Still, many saw no revenue and still haven't, for over a month.
Fr the self employed who are at the bottom of the list, this is crushing their families.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
I get it. It’s not an easy decision.
Do I stay open with minimal income? Or do I close the doors and seek any financial assistance that I can get?
These times are obviously tough and many people won’t recover. But this conversation started because someone made the comment that businesses were closed because they didn’t understand the rules.
Do I stay open with minimal income? Or do I close the doors and seek any financial assistance that I can get?
These times are obviously tough and many people won’t recover. But this conversation started because someone made the comment that businesses were closed because they didn’t understand the rules.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:46 am to lsufishnhunt
Kindly go frick yourself
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:48 am to notiger1997
What did I say that hurt your feelings so badly?
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:49 am to lsufishnhunt
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You sure are big and mean behind that keyboard..
I’m happy to oblige outside of a keyboard if you prefer?
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 9:50 am
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:51 am to Passing Wind
Ok... sonic?
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 9:52 am
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:52 am to Passing Wind
pretty sure you can resolve this at Sonic today since it's not dine in
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