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re: If you own a small business and aren’t getting government help

Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:35 am to
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:35 am to
I’m going to be down voted to hell, called fat, etc... but here goes nothing.

Good example. It’s businesses like varsity sports that are going to be (have already been) hit hard.

From the March 22 EO:
Section 4 - In addition to business closed by EO 30 (which was bars, casinos, restaurants), the following shall close:
1) public amusement
2) personal care/grooming
3) malls (Varsity Sports is not a mall)

Section 5: “any business not covered by guidance from the CISA and not ordered closed in Section 4 shall reduce operations to continue with minimal contact and be limited to 10 person operations.

So go to the CISA guidance:
As you scroll through the document, there is no guidance pertaining to small retail shops similar to Varsity Sports.

After reading through all of this, it seems that Varsity Sports could have remained open provided that they adhered to “social distancing” and 10 person operations (no mention of the number of clients within the business).


Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:38 am to
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JBE should visit a Sonic

Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:45 am to
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And now - I’m a “piece of shite”, “fat”, and “never had a job


I don’t think you’re a piece of shite but you are definitely in over your head in this conversation and seem to have a rare, possibly deadly form of the retard. I think if you were pushed out of an airplane you’d go up instead of down, b/c that’s just how stupid you are.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61810 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:49 am to
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seem to have a rare, possibly deadly form of the retard. I think if you were pushed out of an airplane you’d go up instead of down, b/c that’s just how stupid you are.




Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:50 am to
Man - maybe I deserve that designation, maybe not. Nevertheless- that’s pretty funny

But can you tell me where exactly I went astray here?
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 11:51 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:58 am to
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After reading through all of this, it seems that Varsity Sports could have remained open provided that they adhered to “social distancing” and 10 person operations (no mention of the number of clients within the business).


I see you fail to address the key point of the order that forbids the customers from shopping. And as I noted, they are still “open”.

But it’s not shocking you aren’t understanding/comprehending.
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:02 pm to
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But they’d get way more business allowing fittings to take place.


You said it yourself that people would go if they were allowed to let people in the door....


This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:09 pm to
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You said it yourself that people would go if they were allowed to let people in the door....


Now you’re getting it.

Change the EO to allow customers to shop in “non essential” stores and JBE’s statement, and your position, is accurate.
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:16 pm to
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Posted by Golfer online on 5/1/20 at 8:52 am to LoneStar23 Apparently you could have been open all along. JBE just didn’t tell you. But decided to clarify 8 weeks into the ordeal in a manner that insinuated the business owner didn’t properly read the mess of an EO.


Here’s your post, which is the post that I originally replied to.

The entire premise of the post is surrounded by the process of determining if a business is allowed to be open, per the EO.

My response was entirely in reference to the legality of a business to be open vs closed.

The situation of “but the customers can’t go there to shop” is an entirely different issue and obviously shows a huge problem with the EO.

But - as I’ve maintained, the ability of a business to be open vs closed has always been clear.
Posted by WilsonPickett
St Amant, LA
Member since Oct 2009
1709 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:29 pm to
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Apparently you could have been open all along. JBE just didn’t tell you. But decided to clarify 8 weeks into the ordeal in a manner that insinuated the business owner didn’t properly read the mess of an EO.


Actually had u read the original order it stated very clearly that it wasn’t just essentials who could be open. My business is not essential and we never closed, not one day. Order named essential businesses and stated which non-essential business MUST CLOSE. If you didn’t fall under the must close category you could stay open, just follow the social distancing guidelines.
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:31 pm to
I’m glad to see that I wasn’t losing my mind this morning
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Mr Wonderful
Love City
Member since Oct 2015
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:33 pm to
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lsufishnhunt

You trying to contend for the dumbest poster on this board?

The fricking EO was a stay-at-home order. Get it? Stay home. Now, the alien says he never really closed anything. First of all, that's not true. JBE has quite the history of lying.

Second of all, how the frick you supposed to run a business when everyone is directed to stay home? You really appear to be a special kind of stupid.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:35 pm to
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Actually had u read the original order it stated very clearly that it wasn’t just essentials who could be open. My business is not essential and we never closed, not one day. Order named essential businesses and stated which non-essential business MUST CLOSE. If you didn’t fall under the must close category you could stay open, just follow the social distancing guidelines.


Correct. The employees could go to work. Many businesses have been doing this.

The issue is that the customers are not allowed to shop, per the EO.
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:36 pm to
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The fricking EO was a stay-at-home order


Again - you aren’t reading (or maybe understanding) what I’m saying - probably in the same way that you didn’t read the EO.
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:38 pm to
I’m pretty sure that we’re in agreement here, lol. It just took 4 pages and a lot of name calling to get there.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:44 pm to
I mean sure. Technically the business could be open. But not have customers...or only those willing to violate the EO.

Do you see the hypocrisy in the comments from JBE?
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:49 pm to
Yes, I see the issue with the EO as it relates to customers at non-essential business.

Which is why I said earlier that businesses have a hard decision to make with regard to being open vs closed.

But - at the end of the day, there are businesses that could legally remain open if they thought that it was in their best interest to do so.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:50 pm to
How do you remain open with no customers?
Posted by lsufishnhunt
Member since Jun 2008
1045 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:53 pm to
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Second of all, how the frick you supposed to run a business when everyone is directed to stay home


If you are referring to employees of said business - see Section 3 of the EO which explains that they can go to work.

If you are referring to customers being needed to “run” a business - see previous conversation with Golfer
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:54 pm to
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If you are referring to customers being needed to “run” a business


What business doesn’t need customers to “run”?
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