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re: If you needed a reason not to stand under a sling load

Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
24275 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

that load falling is on the pilot?

Not necessarily, there are two types of hook releases, mechanical and electrical. The hook will be disassembled with manufacturers and probably the Feds present. The entire hook release electrical circuit on the helicopter will be gone through thoroughly and checked.
Important to note, the hook operator on that particular helicopter is seated backwards facing the hook and load behind the pilot in command. He has flight controls to maneuver the aircraft under the load to be lifted. If there is any loss of power from the engines where the safety of the aircraft is in jeopardy, that load is released immediately.
So, too early to point to a cause or lay blame at this point.


Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54760 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

That's going to be on the rigger. The pilot can't fly the chopper AND rig the load.

None of them will work for that company again.
Posted by Perrydawg
Middle Ga Area
Member since Jan 2014
4772 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:10 pm to
hard to tell from the video, but looks like the sling pulled out of the rigging point. Did not see anything fly off as if a shackle pin had sheared, but I am not familiar with the attachments points on a helicopter like that.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21948 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:10 pm to
Unless they have some kind of quick release mechanism that was triggered, that's in the rigging, not the pilot. It's not like he flew it into a building.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10605 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

None of them will work for that company again.


If the pilot is found to not be at fault, why wouldn't he?
Posted by Comic_Tiger
Member since Jul 2020
1277 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:29 pm to
chump thought he had diplomatic immunity.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2106 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:33 pm to
I bet that flattened any curve.
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
1870 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:34 pm to
as stated earlier their are 2 different methods to release the load. A button that electrically opens the hook to release the load and that is on the pilot's cyclic stick (the one between his legs) and a mechanical back up, usually foot actuated that will use a cable to manually pull on the hook release, dropping the load. Most of the ones Ive seen on the control stick are guarded, meaning that you have to raise a cover to hit the button to prevent accidentally hitting the pickle switch.
Posted by TygerT
Member since Nov 2010
406 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:38 pm to
I hope that’s covered under the warranty! Lol??????
Posted by Haystack
Member since Nov 2011
990 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:46 pm to
Never stand in a load drop zone
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33229 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

reason not to stand under a sling load


some folks call it a Kaiser load I calls it a sling load hmmm-mmmm.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21964 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:02 pm to
And I always thought helicopters weren't supposed to hover between buildings because getting caught in their own wake/updraft was dangerous.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35412 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:18 pm to
If you can't tie a knot, tie a lot.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66355 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

If you can't tie a knot, tie a lot.


my fishing lure tying philosophy.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
9759 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:24 pm to
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LegendInMyMind



You're not leaving much to the imagination in terms of your IQ level ole boy
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11824 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:11 pm to
I managed a heli lift a number of years ago on a 26 story building down town BR. Had 2 lifts up and one lift down with some large fans.

Their lift coordinator on the roof with us said he would pick up the first ground lift and set on roof. Then take off the old fan then set new fan in its place. He warned not to get under lift. That in emergency pilot would release his load. First two picks went as planned. On setting the last pick pilot panicked and hit the release. Part of the rigging glanced the hard hat of one of my men. We got lucky.

And as to that lift. That is a Baltimore air coil (BAC) logo on the side of the equipment that was dropped. That is a cooling tower.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11824 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:18 pm to
Pilot can release the load in a emergency. Load may have been heavier then he was told. Could have gotten a wind gust. Or had a mechanical alarm go off.

But look like pilot hit the emergency release
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

Helicopter pickles an AC unit on the street below.

I'm just wondering if the helicopter sticks around for a bit, or if he just kinda slowly sped away with a, "Welp, guess my job here is done" feel to it.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7335 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:26 pm to
As someone without any kind of mechanical experience I always enjoy reading the comments in threads like these from people who have an understanding of what happened like "yes that explanation makes sense"

Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48861 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:31 pm to
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Are cranes outlawed in California?



Probably too far into the roof area for a crane to reach. I’ve used them in New Orleans to fly items up and down-the World Trade Mart being one and setting the light poles along the I-310 at Airline and the bridge.

Used to be all old Vietnam pilots and they flew Vietnam era Sikorsky Chinooks.
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