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re: If nurses across the US simply got paid more then we wouldn’t have a nursing shortage

Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:44 am to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34202 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:44 am to
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If there is no nursing shortage, then why are all of these travel nursing agencies offering crazy 3 month contracts that pay close to $6,000 a week?


Because hospitals fired those not willing to take the “vaccine.”

Then, they replaced them (at exorbitant rates) as travel nurses.

Once the Covid funding ran out, the hospitals realized that they chose poorly.

Your boy Joe, and his mandates, are the real culprit.

See the military.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6022 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:49 am to
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Most of these professional shortages are due to our public school system churning out motherfrickers too dumb to make through the professional classes.


Combined with a class of people that that aren’t motivated by the work, aka quitters that bitch about the student loans for the college they attended in some half-closed mall in their town.
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
30139 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:51 am to
quote:

quote:
If there is no nursing shortage, then why are all of these travel nursing agencies offering crazy 3 month contracts that pay close to $6,000 a week?


Because hospitals fired those not willing to take the “vaccine.”

Then, they replaced them (at exorbitant rates) as travel nurses.

Once the Covid funding ran out, the hospitals realized that they chose poorly.

Your boy Joe, and his mandates, are the real culprit.

See the military.




to be fair, agency and travel work for nurses has been around far longer than covid.

It just wasn't as utilized near as much as it is now. Nurse's are burned out with hospital greed and are realizing they can do the same work for better pay working for an agency rather than working directly for the hospital.

This problem isn't going to change anytime soon bc hospital corporations as a whole, aren't willing to adjust the pay rate for staff nurses.

I am not saying that in every market/location the pay should be 169$/hr or whatever, but it does need to increase.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84124 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:54 am to
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Nursing pay has exploded in recent years.

Thanks for saving us from reading your wall of text
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37538 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:55 am to
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Kaiser reported a net revenue exceeding $91.3 billion in 2022.


What’s their profit?

Also, what’s the gross revenue?
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 7:40 am
Posted by chrome_daddy
LA (Lower Ashvegas)
Member since May 2004
2067 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:09 am to
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It just wasn't as utilized near as much as it is now. Nurse's are burned out with hospital greed and are realizing they can do the same work for better pay working for an agency rather than working directly for the hospital.

This problem isn't going to change anytime soon bc hospital corporations as a whole, aren't willing to adjust the pay rate for staff nurses.
Not true in Virginia. My wife worked for one of the big hospital groups here, quit and went to NYC for Covid as a traveler and ever since was one back here at home. Until this summer, the same hospital group offered her as much as she was making as a traveler - only catch is she's in a float pool for (5) local hospitals. With the great pay and benefits, I'm retiring a year earlier than I planned.

So maybe the hospitals are wising up.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68689 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:13 am to
Well when a burger flipper is at $20/hr everyone else will need to make more.

And you think healthcare costs suck now? We already pay nurses more here than the rest of the world.

This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 6:14 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68689 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:20 am to
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Which is why nursing unions are important. If there was a strong nursing union presence in all states then we wouldn’t be having this problem of shortages of nurses.


The entire point of a union is to not compete for wages with your coworker.

I don’t want someone who is looking after my health to basically not get fired because they don’t have to even try. And why not just move to where they are paying nurses more? Kind of defeats the purpose if they are paying 8x more in another area. Because your union reps ain’t getting you $169/hr in Louisiana.

Ahh I see you got this off Reddit.

This is what the left has done. Made you all stupid.



This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 6:25 am
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11508 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:20 am to
Do the lab next!
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65714 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:23 am to
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There are a bunch of actual doctors that don’t make that.
Is there an “actual doctor” in the house!?!?!?
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
2062 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:25 am to
Because they have to have a Bachelors Degree in RN now instead of just going to Nursing school.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
3926 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:31 am to
If hospitals didnt force an experimental shot on their staff, then we'd also have more nurses.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260689 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:33 am to
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would raise hourly RN wages to $169.00 an hour.



Ridiculous.

Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10511 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:36 am to
Nurses are quitters who couldn’t hack it in med school
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131398 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:36 am to
Nurses are the real heroes.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 6:37 am
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
30139 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:38 am to
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If hospitals didnt force an experimental shot on their staff, then we'd also have more nurses.




while this is true to a small degree, the nursing shortage has been around far longer than covid/vax
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27004 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:39 am to
How bad is the shortage in CA?

Anyone with knowledge. California has strong nursing unions and highest cost of living with state income tax etc etc.

That 169 is still a good wage but it balances out. Tell a bunch of folks in struggling states like Louisiana it turns heads. Also location. I got a text offer (get them daily) for travel jobs. One was Ventura California which a quick glance of map location seemed beautiful?? Other location were inland. Or south and inland. Palm Springs in the summer probably ain’t the best.
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
1336 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:41 am to
You’re an idiot.
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
30139 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:41 am to
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Not true in Virginia. My wife worked for one of the big hospital groups here, quit and went to NYC for Covid as a traveler and ever since was one back here at home. Until this summer, the same hospital group offered her as much as she was making as a traveler - only catch is she's in a float pool for (5) local hospitals. With the great pay and benefits, I'm retiring a year earlier than I planned.

So maybe the hospitals are wising up.


this is what it is going to take to get nursing pay up where it needs to be.

and sadly, it is at the ultimate expense to the patients. there are so many young, inexperienced nurses at the bedside these days, being trained by other young inexperienced nurses.

While I still work ICU part time because I truly love that type of nursing, I left that position as my primary job, to be paid better and have less stress.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29547 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:42 am to
My wife is a nurse and shes paid a salary (in a management role)

Makes ~170 depending on bonus pool

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