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re: If nurses across the US simply got paid more then we wouldn’t have a nursing shortage
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:14 am to JasonDBlaha
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:14 am to JasonDBlaha
169,000 a year for an RN in the Bay Area is completely plausible. No shot at 169 an hour
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:18 am to Cosmo
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Revenue isnt profit moron
But net revenue is a hell of a lot closer to profit than gross revenue.
More importantly, it’s revenue in excess of what it cost to provide those services. So if profit is much less, all that is going to administrative folks living large.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:12 am to Privateer 2007
Some schools require it and “highly” recommend it.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:30 am to JasonDBlaha
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When you factor in COL and California taxes
hence why nurses aren’t moving to California. beg for more mexicans
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:43 am to Rebel
quote:no he really is retarded tho, sometimes I question if I should feel bad for making fun of him
Are you a teenager?
Read his post history
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:54 am to JasonDBlaha
I find this hard to believe. No hospital, even in california could afford those rates.
As for down here in nola, the hospitals along the gulf coast have gotten together and reduced the pay for travel nurses substantially. The nursing shortage is absolutely true btw. We were short staffed for years before covid and still are. Me personally I think we are short staffed because no one wants to work bedside anymore. The amount of shite we hear from these entitled patients and their family members takes its toll on you to the point where your like, "screw it, I dont have to put up with this". The majority of patients are not like this, but you would be surprised how many are. As for the tik tok videos these nurses do, I can't stand that shite. So embarressing to my field, but what can you do.
As for down here in nola, the hospitals along the gulf coast have gotten together and reduced the pay for travel nurses substantially. The nursing shortage is absolutely true btw. We were short staffed for years before covid and still are. Me personally I think we are short staffed because no one wants to work bedside anymore. The amount of shite we hear from these entitled patients and their family members takes its toll on you to the point where your like, "screw it, I dont have to put up with this". The majority of patients are not like this, but you would be surprised how many are. As for the tik tok videos these nurses do, I can't stand that shite. So embarressing to my field, but what can you do.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:54 am to JasonDBlaha
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saw a post on r/nursing 2 weeks ago that said that the hourly wage for Kaiser nurses would be raised up to $169.00 an hour
I long for the world I grew up in where every diarhhea brained statement made wasn't amplified to infinity and broadcast to all the other diarrhea brained people on Earth who immediately accepted it as gospel truth.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 1:59 am
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:34 am to JasonDBlaha
Most of these professional shortages are due to our public school system churning out motherfrickers too dumb to make through the professional classes.
They know pronouns and 139 genders but can't write a sensical report or get 6% into decimal form.
They know pronouns and 139 genders but can't write a sensical report or get 6% into decimal form.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:56 am to JasonDBlaha
Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:26 am to JasonDBlaha
What page are the nurse pics on?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:40 am to JasonDBlaha
They have to hike pay before their neighbors do. Otherwise there will still be a shortage until a new class is trained up.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:52 am to Philzilla2k
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What page are the nurse pics on?
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Philzilla2k
keeping tOT on track anyhoo... yes hospitals should pay nursing staff more, maybe not treefiddy an hour...
the traditionally lower pay scales that hospitals offer, coupled with unsafe staffing ratio's (which has been a chronic problem even before covid) is a large reason so many nurses are leaving the hospital and finding jobs elsewhere.
That leads to the need for Nurse staffing agencies and nurse contract work- which those nurse's may 2-3 times per hour more than a hospital employee. and the agency they work for makes money on top of that- so yes, hospitals CAN afford to pay their nurses more, they choose not to.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:55 am to tigernurse
I’m about to ship my wife to Cali.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:57 am to Capt ST
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I’m about to ship my wife to Cali.
I'm about to ship myself there
tell her to take a contract out there and she and I can split the housing. we'll go, make bank and brb.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:58 am to lsupride87
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I’m just amazed hospitals have been as stubborn as they have been. The nurses called their bluff and the hospitals lost, but still are refusing to take their medicine. They continue to shell out to the nursing agency companies out of spite it seems
There is a happy medium between renumeration and patient ratio that many nurses are willing to accept, and that has been sorely tested, especially by for-profit hospital system conglomerates who have sought to extract maximum profit.
Hospitals have ratcheted up the number of patients that each nurse is responsible for, in some instances to dangerous levels.
Add in Covid bedside burnout, and traveler-flation, and there is absolutely a bedside nursing shortage.
And there will continue to be one for the foreseeable future as the baby-boomer generation interfaces at an increasingly higher and higher rate with the hospital system.
Hospitals *should* have began bumping up pay for bedside nurses at the beginning of Covid, as that would have kept many more at the bedside and/or away from travel nursing.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:01 am to Warfox
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:08 am to Warfox
Patient Satisfaction Scores & HCAHPS Reimbursement is another problem that while not directly tied to nurse pay rates, is associated with nurse burnout rate and dissatisfaction at the bedside.
In this day and age of Incredible Effing Audacity, there is no way to keep ppl happy enough to offer 5 star reviews on the dipship survey's that are mailed to patients after discharge.
In this day and age of Incredible Effing Audacity, there is no way to keep ppl happy enough to offer 5 star reviews on the dipship survey's that are mailed to patients after discharge.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:30 am to JasonDBlaha
Revenue is not a persuasive number for discussions like this.
Nursing pay has exploded in recent years.
My understanding is that we are short of nurses because we quickly decided to expand the roles and positions that would be staffed by nurses. That would not be related to pay.
nursing union - no thanks, there just aren't that many occupations and situations where a union is a net good.
This is absurd. At 40hrs per week and 52 weeks in a year, that is over $350k per year.
Inflation in medical costs has far exceeded general inflation in the economy overall. This is not sustainable. Every change in medicine should be geared toward reducing costs, otherwise our healthcare system will collapse and the government will take over.
Your healthcare is too important to allow the government to control it. I have put forth a healthcare plan that will massively reduce costs and keep the government out of it. There's a way to do this without mandating lower wages or similar measures.
ETA - my comment about nursing pay is based on discussions with nurses I had when I was in research, and they told me what they and others were making and how it had changed over time. I don't know what the data says and how things are broken out when comparing traveling contracts etc.
Nursing pay has exploded in recent years.
My understanding is that we are short of nurses because we quickly decided to expand the roles and positions that would be staffed by nurses. That would not be related to pay.
nursing union - no thanks, there just aren't that many occupations and situations where a union is a net good.
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$169.00 an hour
This is absurd. At 40hrs per week and 52 weeks in a year, that is over $350k per year.
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Sure, upping their pay will raise premiums
Inflation in medical costs has far exceeded general inflation in the economy overall. This is not sustainable. Every change in medicine should be geared toward reducing costs, otherwise our healthcare system will collapse and the government will take over.
Your healthcare is too important to allow the government to control it. I have put forth a healthcare plan that will massively reduce costs and keep the government out of it. There's a way to do this without mandating lower wages or similar measures.
ETA - my comment about nursing pay is based on discussions with nurses I had when I was in research, and they told me what they and others were making and how it had changed over time. I don't know what the data says and how things are broken out when comparing traveling contracts etc.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 5:39 am
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:33 am to JasonDBlaha
Every employee in every sector "should" get paid more.
Government is the only place you see huge pay growth.
Government is the only place you see huge pay growth.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:40 am to POTUS2024
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Nursing pay has exploded in recent years.
Not in the hospital setting.
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My understanding is that we are short of nurses because we quickly decided to expand the roles and positions that would be staffed by nurses. That would not be related to pay.
It is though, indirectly, Hospital's have completely eliminated many ancillary staffed positions and the tasks associated with those 'cut jobs' are now the nurses' responsibility and yet, no increase in the nurse's pay for doing 2 jobs now.
So, indirectly, it is about pay.
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