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re: I was taxed on Xmas gift cards

Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:50 am to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60681 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:50 am to
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So, I get taxed 100%?
you are confused.

They gave you 700 bucks. Your check will show 1000 or so to net the 700. Given they gave you the 700 already it will show the gross amt as all gone.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62600 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:52 am to
quote:

Dumb arse company should have just gave them $200 and $500 bonuses instead of gift cards. Same expense for the company but these employees are now forced to seek out Kroger and Sam’s to spend it.


100% agree with this.

Or just put cash in the envelope.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
6955 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:53 am to
They physically handed me 700 worth of cards, then deducted that amount.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6840 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:54 am to
We used to have big shindig Christmas parties where they gave away pretty decent stuff TVs, Laptops, guns, etc. Some SOB ran to HQ bragging about how our local office was better because they had better Christmas parties…. Bean counters got involved and they had to start getting the tax info as we walked out the door. No one showed up the next year and they haven’t had a party since.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:54 am to
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Look baws, I'm not an accountant, but this is the first time in my working life that this has ever happened. I received many bonuses, and taxes were taken out. But to have my boss hand out an envelope with a few gift cards in them, and say "Happy Holiday's" , and then deduct the amount the following paycheck, is questionable, to say the least. Gift cards are exactly that, a GIFT. Seems like the company is Indian giving


I guess it's the accountant in me, but I don't understand why you feel like it's Indian giving. As a former government auditor, things like "Gift Cards" in the books are basically dangled red meats due to how often it's abused. It's up there with company trucks.

If they truly gave you 700 and then reduced your wages by 700, I'd be pissed and would instantly reach out to HR. They could either list it as 700+x (x being taxes) and show you net to 700, or 700 and the x for taxes lowering your actual paycheck. They should not be removing the entire 700.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 7:56 am
Posted by Specktricity
Lafayette
Member since May 2011
1347 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:56 am to
I bet you pay sales tax when you use them too.
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
4311 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:57 am to
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They physically handed me 700 worth of cards, then deducted that amount.


you keep repeating yourself at this point and we all think you don't know how to read a pay stub. literally JUST GO ASK PAYROLL to explain.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13326 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:59 am to
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Kroger and Sam’s to spend it.

There is no f*@ing way I'm paying $64 in taxes on $200 for the privilege of shopping at the unionized dump that is Kroger. $200 at Kroger is the equivalent of $125 of H-E-B (unless you're buying 200 loaves of bread.)
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60681 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:00 am to
Correct. Imagine the value if the cards was on your check.
Posted by whodatdude
Member since Feb 2011
1473 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:05 am to


You got a sizeable bonus/gift from your employer above your established compensation and you unfortunately have to pay taxes on it. Stop whining
Posted by WM88
West Monroe
Member since Aug 2004
1968 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:05 am to
Sorry but this is a taxable event.

Question:
Did your company not "gross them up" aka pay the taxes for you?
Do you not have an entry in your earnings of tax assist or something like that?
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
24428 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:05 am to
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Short story, my employer gave out $200 gift cards at Kroger for Thanksgiving and $500 at Sams for Xmas. This morning, I looked at my check stub, and they taxed me for it. Basically took out taxes for Uncle Sam. Huh? Please explain


If it wasn’t taxed companies could just pay everyone every payday by gift card.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135846 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:05 am to
quote:

Please explain


It's income, so it's taxed.
Posted by tylerlsu2008
Monaco
Member since Jul 2015
1514 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:06 am to
quote:

I worked for a small company several years back, our president was from Hong Kong and cheap as F$$K.

We would take our top sales people on trips to fancy golf resorts, Vegas etc etc etc

Then he would 1099 em at the end of the year for the cost of their trip


They would all call me raising hell


Why did he do that? Could it have not been run through as a business expense rather than independent contractor compensation?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85730 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:06 am to
Your company didn’t tax you, the government taxes income.

Get on board with no income tax if it bothers you.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
23752 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:07 am to
Would you have been surprised to get taxed in a $700 bonus check?

It’s comp, not a gift.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26668 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:08 am to
Apparently there is no tax if they buy people turkey or ham but taxable if they give you a certificate to buy ham or turkey.

Honeybaked Ham made a whole business off this technicality.

However, employers should have paid the tax and given you a smaller gift card with tax already paid.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72764 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:10 am to
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That's not the answer I was looking for
The obvious answer is your company does much value you.

And with the type of shitty attitude you display here, seems like a reasonable judgment on their part.

Do better and, trust me, you’ll win better prizes.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85730 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:14 am to
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Baw, I've been working for 39 years, and never had an employer take out taxes on a gift card. Not even some cheapskate owner for a $25 one at Academy.



Then they and you broke the law.

It’s all income from whatever source derived.

Gift cards are a cash equivalent fringe benefit.


And not that I think you should pay taxes on that. The goal should be the government spends less and takes less.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 8:20 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69517 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:16 am to
Just be thankful the initial purchase of the gift card isn't taxed
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