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Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:34 am to
Posted by Puddenn32
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:34 am to
if its electric, be sure its full of water before it gets turned back on. You'll ruin the elements if its empty and it turns on.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:44 am to
Take out the casinos and Lake Charles is Beaumont or Port Arthur. Majority of the city was ragged/run down even prior to the hurricane. It’s just a place people pass through when going to other parts of LA or a place Texans come to blow their money at casinos. The only sense of culture that it has is the casinos and that brings a lot of trash into the city.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:46 am to
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SlowFlowPro


Yea and I wasn't really talking about you specifically, as I knew you were handling your business and more bitching about the lack of preparation.

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oh this old house has a natural gas heater in the bathroom and a NG oven/top. we were prepared to cook without power

NG ovens are a requirement for any house I live in no


Yes should always be.

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it's just the whole planning/rollout yesterday was terrible. again, likely WAY above Hunter's head, but they've created a real big tragedy of the commons situation with the water/pressure issue now. a lot of that is from the panic people had waking up yesterday to no power/water. hell my cell phone service was utter shite yesterday morning, too.


The rolling blackout was entergy side, but water was on him and if outside city limits on police jury. They need to have more generator backup, but again some of that was not the lack of generators and not lack of preparation, much of it is the way the systems are designed. They do not have the flow nor pressure capabilities to handle everyone being at home.

I haven't done water system design in a long time, but in general these systems are based off peak usage and a multiplier. For most places that is 9am. In Lake Charles case, if the system was built before the oil bust in the 80s then the system can prolly handle it, other areas built after the bust and the subsequent population drop...Can't. But even if built for the same population that we have today, they are not designed to handle the volume/pressure needed on a day like yesterday. The demand yesterday was way way above any design numbers.

Same thing happened after the hurricanes with the huge pipes busting and draining volume/pressure.

In general people pay for services and have a reasonable expectation to demand better service, especially with what we pay in taxes. But unless the citizens want to rip up everything and start over with a system designed to deliver peak flow to every house at the same time and pay for that.....well then you have to realize this kind of stuff can and will happen.

That's why diamond dog bitching acting like nick is an idiot for asking them to stop overloading the system is a dumb thing to bitch about. He has no concept about how the system is designed demand wise, what the codes say or how the system is kept. He is just bitching cause he didn't have water for 24 hours. He bitches about preparation, yet he had 10 days or more and failed to prepare himself.
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:52 am to
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Take out the casinos and Lake Charles is Beaumont or Port Arthur. Majority of the city was ragged/run down even prior to the hurricane. It’s just a place people pass through when going to other parts of LA or a place Texans come to blow their money at casinos.

i think this view is held by people who primarily take i10, which is pretty desolate

there are a ton of super nice areas. we have 2 fricking country clubs for christ's sake

they're just nowhere near i10

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The only sense of culture that it has is the casinos and that brings a lot of trash into the city.

LC has a lot of culture but it's a type of culture that people who claim to value culture pretends isn't culture

LC is a working-class town with working-class culture. so that means little investment in super high-end outlets (the 2nd generation of casinos have changed this a bit). i mean, day trips to Houston or Nola are very easy so it doesn't make sense to pretend to be couture like Lafayette. this is looked down upon by people who value culture, b/c their vision of what "culture" is, doesn't overlap much with a working class mindset
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:53 am to
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Take out the casinos and Lake Charles is Beaumont or Port Arthur


Beaumont is fair, laughable about PA.

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Majority of the city was ragged/run down even prior to the hurricane


The majority you saw. Southwest lc and parts around the lake are anything but run down. Same with far SE lc. Moss bluff isn't run down either.

Have you ever ventured anywhere in LC besides interstate and casinos?

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It’s just a place people pass through when going to other parts of LA or a place Texans come to blow their money at casinos.


Fair

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The only sense of culture that it has is the casinos and that brings a lot of trash into the city.



Laughable. The whole salad region has always had a strong Cajun culture. Not the same as Lafayette, but more independent.

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Take out the casinos


Take away LSU and baton Rouge is not much different form LC. See how that works. The casinos aren't going anywhere, isle is building a new land based one to compete, the lake front is getting a major uplift. Economy is still going strong and about o have more expansions soon at the plants.

With the hurricane money pouring in, LC will be just fine.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38054 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:00 am to
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i think this view is held by people who primarily take i10, which is pretty desolate

there are a ton of super nice areas. we have 2 fricking country clubs for christ's sake

they're just nowhere near i10


Yep, that was my point. SW LC is nice as frick. SE is pretty nice now and the lake area has had a revival that we haven't seen in our lifetime. The surrounding areas are decent too, moss bluff is has a shite ton of nice sub divisions, Westlake has the golf course area, sulphur has a bunch of new subdivisions in Carlyss area.

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LC has a lot of culture but it's a type of culture that people who claim to value culture pretends isn't culture

LC is a working-class town with working-class culture. so that means little investment in super high-end outlets (the 2nd generation of casinos have changed this a bit). i mean, day trips to Houston or Nola are very easy so it doesn't make sense to pretend to be couture like Lafayette. this is looked down upon by people who value culture, b/c their vision of what "culture" is, doesn't overlap much with a working class mindset



Exactly LC has never claimed or acted to be something it's not. It's a manufacturing hub and those jobs pay very well. But they aren't paying so much that people demand things like Lafayette has. I personally like Lafayette area too and prefer both areas to Baton Rouge for sure.

Like I said before, LC is more Cajun culture without the glitz Laffy has. the economy in LC is damb good still and now with hurricane money coming in, will only get better over next year or so.

We have a bunch of nice local restaurants and most of managed to stay open through covid and the hurricanes. For the size city, it has some great options.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12264 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:07 am to
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people who primarily take i10


False. I have family and plenty of friends in LC and deridder. Spent a lot of time around the area and still dislike LC. I’ve been all around there. Like I said , majority is crappy there’s some decent spots but not enough to overcome the amount of shite. It’s not a nice city. No way around it. People say Houston is a shite hole , sure there’s a lot of shitty areas but there’s also a lot of nice areas that make up for it. There isn’t enough nice to make up for the bad for LC. IMO. Just my opinion. Been there for Mardi Gras. Been to downtown plenty. Been up and down Ryan street. I will admit that darrels is good. I don’t know if it’s the setting that I enjoy or what but a roast beef po boy is solid from there.
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 10:08 am
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:12 am to
LC has a lot of culture but it's a type of culture that people who claim to value culture pretends isn't culture

LC is a working-class town with working-class culture. so that means little investment in super high-end outlets (the 2nd generation of casinos have changed this a bit). i mean, day trips to Houston or Nola are very easy so it doesn't make sense to pretend to be Pretentious like Lafayette. this is looked down upon by people who value culture, b/c their vision of what "culture" is, doesn't overlap much with a working class mindset
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:13 am to
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Spent a lot of time around the area and still dislike LC.

that's fine, but it's not "run down" in the nice areas

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Been there for Mardi Gras



Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38054 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:15 am to
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False. I have family and plenty of friends in LC and deridder. Spent a lot of time around the area and still dislike LC. I’ve been all around there. Like I said , majority is crappy there’s some decent spots but not enough to overcome the amount of shite. It’s not a nice city. No way around it. People say Houston is a shite hole , sure there’s a lot of shitty areas but there’s also a lot of nice areas that make up for it. There isn’t enough nice to make up for the bad for LC. IMO. Just my opinion. Been there for Mardi Gras. Been to downtown plenty. Been up and down Ryan street. I will admit that darrels is good. I don’t know if it’s the setting that I enjoy or what but a roast beef po boy is solid from there.


Ummmm you just compared Houston to LC, you realize how laughable that is?

How about compare it to comparable cities...Lafayette, Monroe, Beaumont, Houma/Thib, hell even BR or Shreveport.

Lafayette is better, the rest...I would say no. Baton Rouge absolutely has more nice spots but % wise, it's pretty close.

If you want to go Texas....better than Beaumont, El paso, albiline, Laredo, Lubbock. About the same as Corpus. Waco is prolly nicer.

But much of what you speak of is simply demographics.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38054 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:16 am to
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that's fine, but it's not "run down" in the nice areas



He pretty much admitted he hasn't been to any of the nice areas.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12264 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:37 pm to
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If you want to go Texas....better than Beaumont, El paso, albiline, Laredo, Lubbock. About the same as Corpus. Waco is prolly nicer.


The only place on this list that it’s debatable for being nicer than would be Laredo or Beaumont. You’re beating a dead horse here defending Lake Charles as if it’s something nice. It’s barely even top 5 in LA. That’s even close.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38054 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:00 pm to
Name the 5 cities, Lafayette, BR, Nola. Better than any others unless you want to include north shore and in that case, north shore is nicest area of the state.

You have already admitted you have never even been to the nice section of LC. So how would you even know?
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 1:01 pm
Posted by SouthboundTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
1099 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:00 pm to
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Like I said before, LC is more Cajun culture without the glitz Laffy has.


I gotta beg to differ here, you guys sprinkle your crawfish, mispronounce many cajun names (i.e. choupique), and put the word bayou after the bayou's name (i.e. Contraband Bayou). I'd say you're most East Texas than anything. I don't mean any disrespect to the people of LC, but you have somewhat of a simple minded mentality about the culture of your place. You need to spend more time elsewhere to get a valid representation of the differences you have from Acadiana and SELA.

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We have a bunch of nice local restaurants


I also disagree here. As a BR native I know that I am a little biased, but your local cuisine is mediocre at best. Seafood is hard to find and most of the chef's aren't putting out anything special. Hell yall get excited about rice and gravy on the menu at restaurants.

And finally....Darrell's (although delicious) aint an effin poboy. It's microwaved food served on a damn hoagie. If it aint got french bread, it aint no poboy!!!
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12264 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:11 pm to
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You have already admitted you have never even been to the nice section of LC


I never admired that. I’ve been to every corner of LC. The south side is the nicer side. Downtown is trying to be up and coming like Lafayette. After the 3 cities you named , north shore and Ruston would round out the top 5. Natchitoches might even be better than LC. They are getting a Whataburger
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38054 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:18 pm to
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I gotta beg to differ here, you guys sprinkle your crawfish, mispronounce many cajun names (i.e. choupique), and put the word bayou after the bayou's name (i.e. Contraband Bayou). I'd say you're most East Texas than anything. I don't mean any disrespect to the people of LC, but you have somewhat of a simple minded mentality about the culture of your place. You need to spend more time elsewhere to get a valid representation of the differences you have from Acadiana and SELA.


Bro, no offense but not many sprinkle the crawfish but many will try different things. Nothing wrong with not having same thing over and over.

I have spent tons of time in Acadiana and all my family is originally from that area. I can trace my heritage back to nova Scotia and France before that on my dad's side.

There are differences between Acadiana just like Acadiana has differences between itself and SELA.

Didn't say it was the same but it's similar but less pretentious for sure.

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I also disagree here. As a BR native I know that I am a little biased, but your local cuisine is mediocre at best. Seafood is hard to find and most of the chef's aren't putting out anything special. Hell yall get excited about rice and gravy on the menu at restaurants.


Have you been to any nice restaurants in LC? Seafood is anything but hard to come by. Get off I-10.

Go try Lunas, 121, calla, 1910, villa, la truffe savage, mavens, cousins amongst a bunch of different nice restaurants. There is a damb crawfiah place on every corner. Seafood palace is the best seafood restaurant for purely fried and boiled seafood.

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Hell yall get excited about rice and gravy on the menu at restaurants.



Dude....stop hanging out with lower middle class people

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And finally....Darrell's (although delicious) aint an effin poboy. It's microwaved food served on a damn hoagie. If it aint got french bread, it aint no poboy!!!


Well it isn't a fricking hoagie, the bread is French bread and damn good pobody bread...the rest you are right about. The sliced sausage and shrimp are much better.

As much as I'm not a huge fan of the special, name me a better poboy. I have eaten at most of the so called bets ones in the Lafayette area and the ones in Nola and not many beat darrels. If you only consider true roast beef or fried seafood to be the only things acceptable on a poboy....well we will have to disagree.

I do think the special would be much better with quality meata cooked on site.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38054 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:21 pm to
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Ruston would round out the top 5. Natchitoches might even be better than LC. They are getting a Whataburger



Come on man. I have been to both and you are crazy.

And I would argue Br is not as nice as LC. Less crime, better politics, better economy, better schools. Only thing BR has more options due to size, same thing with Nola.

Northshore is not a city btw.
Posted by SouthboundTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
1099 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:54 pm to
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Go try Lunas


BIGGEST complaint about your shite city. The restaurant is called fricking LUNA not LUNAS. The grocery store is called KROGER not KROGERS. Learn how to read the damn sign and speak the English language.

Also, I lived their 5 years. I tried it all. Luna is the only one worth a frick.

It's a lower to middle class city with some old money sprinkled around. Most of the town is simple minded and does things one way because that's the way Daddy did it. I have not met many there whom open to new ideas.

You know what parts of BR are shitty? The parts that are near industrial facilities. You dumbasses over there put golf courses next to your plants (Graywood and The National) in an effort to attract people to live there.
Albeit those are some nice courses that I enjoy, do you really think that those parts of town won't go to shite in the next 20 years. Nobody with any sense wants to live close to something that can go BOOM.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11936 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 2:07 pm to
Do you know if your neighbors are home? This can be important when you get water back.

(Experience from the Quarter in a really hard freeze.)

First the water barely drips, when totally open. Then it stops and water freezes.

Water pressure comes back on and surges through breaks in the pipes.
Ours didn't, but our neighbor's did and we knew he was in Alabama tending his pipes in his historic home there. We could hear his water gushing from his second floor bathroom down the stairs where we could see it running out into his courtyard. So we called NOPSI and had it shut off.
Next morning he came to NOLA to get a hot shower and had no water. Called NOPSI all bent out of shape and they explained why it was cut off and who was responsible. Then he saw his carpets and floor.

Two days later, damage repaired and we were treated to a very nice dinner at a major restaurant.

Interiour broken water lines can destroy a home, not to mention dewater a neighborhood fire supression system.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 2:08 pm to
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You dumbasses over there put golf courses next to your plants (Graywood


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do you really think that those parts of town won't go to shite in the next 20 years.


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Graywood


i'll take that bet

also which plant is by Graywood? the lng plant or are we talking about across water?
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