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re: I honestly thought this was a fake statistic, but it isn’t. Tokyo budget vs NYC budget

Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10613 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:42 pm to
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superior public transit


There are many documentaries on this. Very hands on service especially for women.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:43 pm to
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So japan is higher taxed and gets more back for it? Interesting.
You made the claim that they were higher taxed.

I was merely pointing out that they CLEARLY get a better bang for their buck.
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Personally I don't think anyone would go for having higher taxes even if there was more in return.
Well, no, because we know how poorly it is spent already.

As the OP points out, we give much more and get less in return, therefore we will fight any additional amount being asked for because we know that an additional amount will just be wasted or stolen.

And, like I said, politicians in America are rarely punished.
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 9:47 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:45 pm to
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There are many documentaries on this. Very hands on service especially for women.
That is the citizenry, and it is being addressed.

There are female only cars.

An example of how well-run the trains are in Japan is the following:

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Japanese Rail Operator Says Sorry For 'Inexcusable' Departure 25 Seconds Early
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This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 9:46 pm
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
8688 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:45 pm to
America made Japan better in 1945.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24243 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:48 pm to
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I bet a few will be referenced in this thread

Non-diversified
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24243 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:50 pm to
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It's also a fairly oppressive society

Replace "oppressive" with "polite" and you may make some headway.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122189 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:51 pm to
Our governments, from the top down are a joke. They spend money like its flowing water. Elected officials spend based on their priorities and not whats best for the people that money comes from, etc. And its the voters fault. People are afraid to get rid of the statue quo. Anyone who can raise enough money can get in office and do whatever they want, tell the people whatever they want to hear. If there are problems blame it on others. Tokyo probably has voters who are more likely to vote smarter.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78443 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:53 pm to
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Well, no, because we know how poorly it is spent already.



I gave examples where the taxes are delivering exactly what they should and people votes against more improvements.

We in fact do not give more. That is just factually incorrect.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:00 pm to
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I gave examples where the taxes are delivering exactly what they should and people votes against more improvements.
You gave an example involving the school district in small town Louisiana as a sign that we aren’t willing to give more even when the return is good.

A bit myopic of a viewpoint and example, don’t you think?

How about the state of LA funding a new MS river bridge?

I’m sure an increase in state taxes will go over well for that if asked for because LA has managed roads very well.

The fact is, US citizens get a very poor return for their taxes, at every level of government.

If the US government, state governments, and city governments ran with the same efficiency and professionalism of the Japanese, I would gladly pay more in taxes.

As a matter of fact, I will make that my defining line.

When that happens, let me know and I’ll stop opposing all tax increases out of principle.

This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 10:01 pm
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36160 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:03 pm to
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Zappas Stache



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It's also a fairly oppressive society



I am guessing that you wouldn't live there and maybe that is why Tokyo is such an awesome place.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78443 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:06 pm to
Japan bachelor tax

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Many in Japan are already complaining that they’re underpaid and overtaxed. (


Guess it isn't just a US thing.
Posted by bleeng
The Woodlands
Member since Apr 2013
4401 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:24 pm to
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There are female only cars.
. My gf and I got in one those by mistake. I was the one to feel uncomfortable but no one said anything. Nice views though.

This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 3:33 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10613 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:29 pm to
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I gave examples where the taxes are delivering exactly what they should and people votes against more improvements.
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they are one of the top areas in the state and everyone still complains they don't want higher taxes. Last year Livingston voted against pay raises for teachers and there schools are up there with the best.


Paying more doesn’t mean more you get improvements like you stated. Having some success doesn’t mean that they aren’t paying too much in taxes for that success.

This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12462 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:46 pm to
No doubt Tokyo astronomically more efficient than NYC. I'm not sure how Japanese federalism works compared to ours. Does the national government there foot a bigger or smaller portion of the bill?
Posted by NorthstarinLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2020
2675 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:47 pm to
Look at How many NGOs and BS hand out programs NYC has vs Tokyo. Thats part of the problem
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4134 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 5:45 am to
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It's also a fairly oppressive society


Why do lefties always associate being civil with oppression?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34559 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 5:49 am to
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What expenses does each city cover?


That's actually a good question.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20103 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:26 am to
Japan might not be a bad place to end up.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3296 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:28 am to
Only TD.com would blame the NYC budget on black people. Shameful.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
42888 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:34 am to
Nothin' but culcha
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