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re: I honestly thought this was a fake statistic, but it isn’t. Tokyo budget vs NYC budget
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:52 am to CrazyTigerFan
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:52 am to CrazyTigerFan
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Funding is combined from national, prefectural (think state), municipal (think parish/county more than city/town), and family levels.
Grade school (1-6) and junior high school (7-9) are mandatory. Teachers are funded via national (33%) and prefectural (67%) funds. School facilities and maintenance are funded and managed via municipal funds. Uniforms, meals, supplies, and travel are funded via family funds. There are extra national funds to help cover the difference in very rural and low family income situations.
Senior high school (10-12) is not mandatory and is funded and managed at the national, prefectural, and family level. Same as above, but the prefecture is in charge of the schools.
Tokyo is so large that it works as its own prefecture with multiple municipal districts. So 1/3 of teacher salaries come from the national level, and there are extra national funds to help low income families, but the rest is prefectural and local districts.
Health care is a different topic, but the funding also comes from multiple levels. I will say that my experience (as a municipal employee, not just a tourist) was that it was quicker, cheaper, and more accessible in Japan (Osaka area) compared to Louisiana (GNO and BR area). They're also much less prone to throwing pills at things over there.
Thanks a lot for the very informed reply.
Seems there are large differences in what the budgets of Tokyo and NYC cover.
But I guess it makes a good talking point in our current political dynamic of nonstop ignorance slinging.
Not surprised to hear that about Japan's health care system. I lived in Italy for many years and had a positive impression / experience of theirs and imagine it pales in comparison to Japan.
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Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:53 am to wm72
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Seems there are large differences in what the budgets of Tokyo and NYC cover.
Not to mention the amount of corruption and graft.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:10 pm to Centinel
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Not to mention the amount of corruption and graft.
Japan actually has a lot of that too.
Anywhere there's people there's corruption and graft.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:13 pm to wm72
I didn't say there wasn't. What I am saying is the amount compared to the amount in NYC isn't even a blip on the radar.
Hence why a city with half the population has twice the budget, and is objectively worse off in every way.
Hence why a city with half the population has twice the budget, and is objectively worse off in every way.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:20 pm to Centinel
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Hence why a city with half the population has twice the budget, and is objectively worse off in every way.
Tokyo is really cool and they do have the advantage of much cheaper health care than Americans but there's a reason rich and educated people flock to NYC to visit and live like no other place in the world.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:23 pm to wm72
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Tokyo is really cool and they do have the advantage of much cheaper health care than Americans but there's a reason rich and educated people flock to NYC to visit and live like no other place in the world.
You're making too much sense.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:25 pm to Zappas Stache
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It's also a fairly oppressive society
Explain, with examples please.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:26 pm to ATrillionaire
quote:especially for the idiots on this board.
You're making too much sense.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The Japanese have pride in themselves and their families.
If you dont work you are going to starve. The public assistants in Japan is not to be a burden on anyone.
If you dont work you are going to starve. The public assistants in Japan is not to be a burden on anyone.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:29 pm to DCtiger1
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The budget for the ENTIRE state of FL is 117 billion.... Florida population: 24 million NYC population: 9 million
When you all capped entire, are you suggesting the Florida number includes the state budget of Florida, AND the budget of every city in Florida to compare to NYC?
Explain the data with more clarity please.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:29 pm to wm72
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Tokyo is really cool and they do have the advantage of much cheaper health care than Americans
So your assertion is that NYC has twice the budget of Tokyo, with half the population, because of....healthcare?
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Tokyo is a homogeneous city New York City is full of low iq illegal immigrants. Same reason Seoul South Korea is so clean and safe. No low iq foreigners.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 12:38 pm to ronricks
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New York City is full of low iq
As shown by the politicians they have produced.
This post was edited on 2/22/26 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:00 pm to Centinel
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So your assertion is that NYC has twice the budget of Tokyo, with half the population, because of....healthcare?
Not sure where you got that. My original point was that most of this difference is likely due to what the different federal governments cover.
Healthcare probably accounts for some of the difference as I imagine -- based on the very educated first-hand post above few likely read -- the federal government in Japan covers significantly more healthcare related costs than the current US federal government.
Education and childcare seem to be a huge difference just by a quick look at the budgets. NYC spends around 45% of it's entire budget on Education and pre-school child services. Tokyo spends 22%.
However, you're likely not completely wrong about corruption and graft.
It's certainly hard to think of bigger feed the swamp crooks than Eric Adams or Rudi Giuliani. But Japan/Tokyo has ton of that going on as well that people are ignoring for their political gotchas.
This post was edited on 2/22/26 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I don’t think the statistics are apples to apples. That said even if it is off by 50% it is still insane.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:30 pm to CaptainJ47
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I don’t think the statistics are apples to apples. That said even if it is off by 50% it is still insane
It is notable with a lot of info missing. Seems to be a trend lately.
A competing thread on the front page is doing the same with other data. In that thread Canada is a shithole because they are behind Alabama in GDP per capita....Japan is even further behind.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:33 pm to fightin tigers
Im confused by the statistic as it pertains to cities.
Does the federal government fund city budgets to pay for Healthcare? I thought the whole concept was "single payor" (federal government to patient)... not a trickle down from federal to state to city.
Does the federal government fund city budgets to pay for Healthcare? I thought the whole concept was "single payor" (federal government to patient)... not a trickle down from federal to state to city.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:37 pm to meansonny
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Does the federal government fund city budgets to pay for Healthcare
For NYC? I would imagine there is some or a lot via Feds. Probably state and local as well. It is pretty probably pretty inefficient.
For Japan it looks like everyone has insurance 70% paid for by the Feds and cover 30% themselves. Someone who has lived there can likely give more detailed info.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 3:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Diversity ain't free.
Another nugget is that NYCs budget alone is bigger than the ENTIRE state of Florida
Another nugget is that NYCs budget alone is bigger than the ENTIRE state of Florida
Posted on 2/22/26 at 3:16 pm to Scruffy
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women walking home alone without a care in the world.
The place is insanely safe.
The salarymen that fall asleep in the street (I've only seen one of these specifically, and he was mostly on the curb) after getting wasted, with their laptops, is an example. Their laptops, wallets and phones are never stolen. Most likely, someone leaves them a bottle of water for when they wake up. Missing the last train commonly leads to them falling asleep in open air stations like Shinagawa.
My mom lost her wallet in a Tokyo park in the early 80s with dollars and Yen in it. A homeless man returned it, without a single Yen missing (worth maybe 1/4 of a cent) to a police station.
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