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re: I-12...Saw 18 wheeler run nissan off road .

Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:40 am to
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6670 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:40 am to
quote:

When will they widen it?


Trying to follow this logic?

1. the car was either in the blind spot of the truck and does not know how to safely drive, or the trucker was not paying attention when they changed lanes - and widening the road would do what exactly?

We have portions of the intestate across the country with 6 lanes or more and this still happens. The road cannot change stupid driving.

Let's start blaming the individual drivers as it should be. 100,000 people transverse that roadway each day without a problem. About a half dozen retards screw it up for the rest .
Posted by BillyGibbons
St. Somewhere
Member since Mar 2020
799 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:40 am to
No Interstate should be fewer than 3 Lanes in each direction.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17860 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:03 am to
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99.9999% of the problems are 18 wheelers. fricking hate em


Nope. The trucks aren’t the issue. It’s the Dei drivers. Blaming inanimate objects solves nothing.
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
Below I-10
Member since Jul 2019
4112 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:05 am to
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99.9999% of the problems are 18 wheelers. fricking hate em

Considering 99.9999% of everything you own was brought to you by a truck, maybe it's our shitty roads that might be the problem.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:06 am to
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But there is also a lot more of them because we consume a lot more bullshite than we did 20-30 years ago



And so much of it is not produced even regionally, much less locally.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:07 am to
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maybe it's our shitty roads that might be the problem.


And Louisiana has some of the most neglected highways in a country that largely neglects its highways.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7853 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:16 am to

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Louisiana has some of the most neglected highways in a country that largely neglects its highways


State legislature writes bills for highway construction but do not include funds for future maintenance.

Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10217 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:12 am to
Was it an Altima?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61447 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:15 am to
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When will they widen it?
Can you imagine if they added a lane to 12....it would be typical, add a lane into 12 eastbound, but do nothing with 10. It would screw up traffic at 3 AM.

Something has to give.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 10:16 am
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20846 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:17 am to
Possibly a dumb question. Why do we not build elevated express ways through major metro areas? Only have limited strategic off ramps. Would allow for traffic to by bypass metro areas, Houston, LC, Laff. Instead of greenfield loops, just put two elevated lanes over the existing interstate. There is no way that is more expensive then building loops from scratch.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 11:26 am
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
24169 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:24 am to
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They are trying to write and pass legislation to correct the issue.


Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89133 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:28 am to
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Possibly a dumb question. Why do we not build elevated express ways through major metro areas? Only have limited strategic off ramps. Would allow for traffic to by bypass metro areas, Houston, LC, Laff. Instead of greenfield loops just put two elevated lanes over the existing interstate. There is no way that is more expensive then building loops from scratch.


Where are you building them? How are you acquiring the necessary right of way? How are you incorporating them into the existing roadway system for these "strategic off ramps?" Who's gonna finance something like this?

Spoiler alert, bridges are fricking expensive
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 11:01 am to
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First, there's plenty of money to expand I-12

There’s something like a $19 billion backlog of projects & maintenance in the state
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20846 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 11:24 am to
All those same questions apply to loops and the never ending widening of lanes in the interstate. Drive from Covington to Houston. It is a construction shite show. Also the interstate already has the necessary ROWs.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89133 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 11:27 am to
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All those same questions apply to loops and the never ending widening of lanes in the interstate.


Sure but building on mostly level ground out in teh sticks is waaaaay cheaper and easier than building elevated sections in high density areas, plus does a lot more for the highway system's overall capacity
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Also the interstate already has the necessary ROWs.


Wut? So you want to build more interstate on top of existing interstate?
Posted by Z Cavaricci
Member since Jun 2020
2053 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Was it an Altima?
Posted by Z Cavaricci
Member since Jun 2020
2053 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Was it an Altima?



Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23022 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 11:54 am to
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Wut? So you want to build more interstate on top of existing interstate?


I think he's saying widen within the existing median or shoulders, but then you run into issues with head-on crossover collisions, you're getting dangerously close to trees/ditches/canals if you go to the outside so you have clear zone issues.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74878 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 11:58 am to
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We spend the funds we’re given to play catch up, honestly.
To do maintenance or preservation work, you should do it when the pavement is still in relatively fair to good condition.

Doing maintenance to pavement in poor condition or once the base has already failed is like putting a band aid on a stab wound.
It would take a departmental wide shift in philosophy to kill the worst first strategy.

We’re caught in a cycle where by the time we spent all this money completely ripping out the base and rebuilding a road, a new one is already in poor condition, and calls for the same treatment… instead of trying to do thin overlays and preventative maintenance actions while the pavement is still in good condition. Also many states have a higher budget than we do for these maintenance type projects.

ETA: this still is a surface issue and doesn’t fix the capacity issue, which it sounds like I-12 is.
Those types of interstate widening projects have to go through so many channels of environmental, real estate, etc and often have split funding of all types. Fed, state, grants, etc that have to be reviewed by all entities involved.


Not goofing, I wholeheartedly agree with you.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74878 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 12:48 pm to
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