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Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:08 pm
Posted by mikie421
continental shelf
Member since Nov 2008
878 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:08 pm
My A/C went out, has been on the outs for a few years, current system undersized by 1.5 tons. Got a quote today as follows after they conducted a Manual J test:

Complete install; new ducts, a/c, heat, condenser, hard duct main trunk with flex duct from trunk to registers. Adding a few registers here and there, adding return air duct from master bedroom to aid air exchange, 5" pleated filter.

Amana, 5 Ton, 410a, 20 SEER, variable speed compressor and variable speed blower.....$21,500

Amana, 5 ton, 410a, 16 SEER, two stage compressor and variable speed blower.....$17,000

Amana, 5 ton, 410a, 14 SEER, .....$15,000

I'm expecting top notch work from these guys, are these prices way too high? I was expecting more in the 10K range. Mandeville area.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 8:11 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45500 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:19 pm to
Doesn't sound crazy to me but don't have much experience.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
24169 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Amana, 5 ton, 410a, 16 SEER, two stage compressor and variable speed blower.....$17,000



Ideal.

That's only high by a couple thousand. Every home is different. The AC equipment will be 8-9K. Old work is miserable. It's much simpler during construction. The duct work and registers are labor intensive. New electrical connections and breakers are probably included also.

eta: If I were in the business, I would charge extra for a Summer replacement.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Chatagnier
Member since Sep 2008
6851 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:37 pm to
Just replaced my outside and inside unit with a 4 ton Daikin single stage with heat pump. No changes were done to ductwork or thermostat. Replaced freon lines and disconnect. $6500 if that helps
Posted by ericw8036
St. Gabriel
Member since Oct 2009
87 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:38 pm to
I just installed a 5 ton Amana 17 seer 5 two stage unit with basically the same work you describe for 12,500. Work was done in B.R. due to flood.
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:41 pm to
Seems high by a couple k. Impossible to know for sure though.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61774 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:43 pm to
Drop all that extra duct work & return air stuff and other than the unit, requote it with a new thermostat, plenum plus condensate pan and line.

The 5" filter is overkill unless you are paranoid about the air in your home. If that's the case, you should add the ultraviolet lights to kill all the microbes, germs and mold.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 8:48 pm
Posted by WhoGeaux
Member since Apr 2011
5552 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:46 pm to
Rheem 4 ton 14 seer single phase, inside and outside units, w/ electric heat: $4500
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24439 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:47 pm to
Quotes are free, you should get at least 3 but I'd recommend 5. I replaced an AC system in a rental this past May and my quotes were from $3500 to 6500. 3 of them were the exact same machine, and over $2000 difference in price. I'm all about paying for what you get, but HVAC quotes can be all over the board depending on how much they needs the work
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
21014 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:51 pm to
Just did all of that with a 4 ton unit 14 seer Carrier 6500
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13360 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:22 pm to
Regardless I would get at least 2 bids
Posted by Libertariantiger
Member since Nov 2012
981 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:28 pm to
I think you are paying a little premium at those prices. Not out the park if you feel good about the company, but I think you can get a reno 16seer var speed 2 stage set up for about 12k-14k. They are usually about double what a basic unit would be. I'm not familiar with Ariana. I've mainly dealt in American Standard Lennox, Carrier. And I've liked them in that order.
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
2132 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:28 pm to
Sounds high to me. I got a 4 ton furnace/Ac 17 seer 2 stage Ruud for 7500 earlier this year. Quote on an equal amana was like 13k. Only 1 new duct but that was only about 100.

You need to get some more quotes besides amana. I had them at my last house and wasn't impressed. So far these new units have cut my energy bills nearly in half.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22542 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:46 pm to
It's a little high. But not extremely
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:50 pm to
don't need all of that, a new outside unit should cost between 4-5k, and your bills will go down, don't need new duct work, anything upstairs, you're being sold a bill of goods
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:03 am to
I may get slammed by the hvac elite, but since Daikin bought Goodman, the last 2-3 years Goodman's have been pretty solid for my new construction builders.

Retro ductwork will jack the price the price time/labor but if it's old house (+40) it may not be a terrible investment. Still that price seems a little high but I only see builder quotes on new construction
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:54 am to
quote:

Impossible to know for sure though.


A lot of it depends on the duct work, or rather how accessible it is. Most contractors will charge a premium for difficult to access areas or anything that is truly nasty.
Posted by Geauxdhan08
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2015
357 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 4:09 am to
I've worked for an energy efficiency co. and I find it very hard to believe you need to go from a 1.5 ton unit to a 5 ton. AC co.s always sell units way bigger than they need to when certain simple, cheaper measures would allow a smaller unit to run more than efficiently enough to satisfy a homeowner's needs...AC returns tend to have a ton of air leaks that require the unit to work harder, for instance, as do duct connections to registers and to the unit. Having someone thoroughly seal your ac system and small things like caulking window/door frames, etc and buying a smaller unit is the way to go from everything I've seen. Small measures save big dollars.. Just fwiw...

ETA.. Rebirth Energy works out of N.O. and did the most thorough work from testing to appropriate measures that I saw. They can tell you the exact percentage of your AC units production that's making it to the registers and how much is being leaked, and perform balancing where they adjust the dampers on each register based on the square footage of each room so there's no wasted output. I haven't worked there in like 3 years but I've heard they still have that reputation and should be expanding to Colorado shortly, so I guess they're still doing something right.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 5:35 am
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56616 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 4:59 am to
quote:

My A/C went out, has been on the outs for a few years, current system undersized by 1.5 tons. Got a quote today as follows after they conducted a Manual J test:

Complete install; new ducts, a/c, heat, condenser, hard duct main trunk with flex duct from trunk to registers. Adding a few registers here and there, adding return air duct from master bedroom to aid air exchange, 5" pleated filter.

Amana, 5 Ton, 410a, 20 SEER, variable speed compressor and variable speed blower.....$21,500

Amana, 5 ton, 410a, 16 SEER, two stage compressor and variable speed blower.....$17,000

Amana, 5 ton, 410a, 14 SEER, .....$15,000

I'm expecting top notch work from these guys, are these prices way too high? I was expecting more in the 10K range. Mandeville area.



No more than 7500

with duct work being replaced, need to know more but figure another 1500....

9-11 top end

higher SEER will cost more,yes, but these numbers are stupid high
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 8:08 am
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23341 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:59 am to
That's not ridiculously expensive and pretty much in line with what I've heard people paying. My in laws had their system changed out, smaller unit, no duct work and paid $12,500
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