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HVAC Quote Check
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:08 pm
My A/C went out, has been on the outs for a few years, current system undersized by 1.5 tons. Got a quote today as follows after they conducted a Manual J test:
Complete install; new ducts, a/c, heat, condenser, hard duct main trunk with flex duct from trunk to registers. Adding a few registers here and there, adding return air duct from master bedroom to aid air exchange, 5" pleated filter.
Amana, 5 Ton, 410a, 20 SEER, variable speed compressor and variable speed blower.....$21,500
Amana, 5 ton, 410a, 16 SEER, two stage compressor and variable speed blower.....$17,000
Amana, 5 ton, 410a, 14 SEER, .....$15,000
I'm expecting top notch work from these guys, are these prices way too high? I was expecting more in the 10K range. Mandeville area.
Complete install; new ducts, a/c, heat, condenser, hard duct main trunk with flex duct from trunk to registers. Adding a few registers here and there, adding return air duct from master bedroom to aid air exchange, 5" pleated filter.
Amana, 5 Ton, 410a, 20 SEER, variable speed compressor and variable speed blower.....$21,500
Amana, 5 ton, 410a, 16 SEER, two stage compressor and variable speed blower.....$17,000
Amana, 5 ton, 410a, 14 SEER, .....$15,000
I'm expecting top notch work from these guys, are these prices way too high? I was expecting more in the 10K range. Mandeville area.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:19 pm to mikie421
Doesn't sound crazy to me but don't have much experience.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:22 pm to mikie421
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Amana, 5 ton, 410a, 16 SEER, two stage compressor and variable speed blower.....$17,000
Ideal.
That's only high by a couple thousand. Every home is different. The AC equipment will be 8-9K. Old work is miserable. It's much simpler during construction. The duct work and registers are labor intensive. New electrical connections and breakers are probably included also.
eta: If I were in the business, I would charge extra for a Summer replacement.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:37 pm to mikie421
Just replaced my outside and inside unit with a 4 ton Daikin single stage with heat pump. No changes were done to ductwork or thermostat. Replaced freon lines and disconnect. $6500 if that helps
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:38 pm to Btrtigerfan
I just installed a 5 ton Amana 17 seer 5 two stage unit with basically the same work you describe for 12,500. Work was done in B.R. due to flood.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:41 pm to mikie421
Seems high by a couple k. Impossible to know for sure though.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:43 pm to mikie421
Drop all that extra duct work & return air stuff and other than the unit, requote it with a new thermostat, plenum plus condensate pan and line.
The 5" filter is overkill unless you are paranoid about the air in your home. If that's the case, you should add the ultraviolet lights to kill all the microbes, germs and mold.
The 5" filter is overkill unless you are paranoid about the air in your home. If that's the case, you should add the ultraviolet lights to kill all the microbes, germs and mold.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:46 pm to Chillini
Rheem 4 ton 14 seer single phase, inside and outside units, w/ electric heat: $4500
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:47 pm to Bullfrog
Quotes are free, you should get at least 3 but I'd recommend 5. I replaced an AC system in a rental this past May and my quotes were from $3500 to 6500. 3 of them were the exact same machine, and over $2000 difference in price. I'm all about paying for what you get, but HVAC quotes can be all over the board depending on how much they needs the work
Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:51 pm to baldona
Just did all of that with a 4 ton unit 14 seer Carrier 6500
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:22 pm to mikie421
Regardless I would get at least 2 bids
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:28 pm to mikie421
I think you are paying a little premium at those prices. Not out the park if you feel good about the company, but I think you can get a reno 16seer var speed 2 stage set up for about 12k-14k. They are usually about double what a basic unit would be. I'm not familiar with Ariana. I've mainly dealt in American Standard Lennox, Carrier. And I've liked them in that order.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:28 pm to mikie421
Sounds high to me. I got a 4 ton furnace/Ac 17 seer 2 stage Ruud for 7500 earlier this year. Quote on an equal amana was like 13k. Only 1 new duct but that was only about 100.
You need to get some more quotes besides amana. I had them at my last house and wasn't impressed. So far these new units have cut my energy bills nearly in half.
You need to get some more quotes besides amana. I had them at my last house and wasn't impressed. So far these new units have cut my energy bills nearly in half.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:46 pm to mikie421
It's a little high. But not extremely
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:50 pm to mikie421
don't need all of that, a new outside unit should cost between 4-5k, and your bills will go down, don't need new duct work, anything upstairs, you're being sold a bill of goods
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:03 am to mikie421
I may get slammed by the hvac elite, but since Daikin bought Goodman, the last 2-3 years Goodman's have been pretty solid for my new construction builders.
Retro ductwork will jack the price the price time/labor but if it's old house (+40) it may not be a terrible investment. Still that price seems a little high but I only see builder quotes on new construction
Retro ductwork will jack the price the price time/labor but if it's old house (+40) it may not be a terrible investment. Still that price seems a little high but I only see builder quotes on new construction
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:54 am to Chillini
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Impossible to know for sure though.
A lot of it depends on the duct work, or rather how accessible it is. Most contractors will charge a premium for difficult to access areas or anything that is truly nasty.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 4:09 am to mikie421
I've worked for an energy efficiency co. and I find it very hard to believe you need to go from a 1.5 ton unit to a 5 ton. AC co.s always sell units way bigger than they need to when certain simple, cheaper measures would allow a smaller unit to run more than efficiently enough to satisfy a homeowner's needs...AC returns tend to have a ton of air leaks that require the unit to work harder, for instance, as do duct connections to registers and to the unit. Having someone thoroughly seal your ac system and small things like caulking window/door frames, etc and buying a smaller unit is the way to go from everything I've seen. Small measures save big dollars.. Just fwiw...
ETA.. Rebirth Energy works out of N.O. and did the most thorough work from testing to appropriate measures that I saw. They can tell you the exact percentage of your AC units production that's making it to the registers and how much is being leaked, and perform balancing where they adjust the dampers on each register based on the square footage of each room so there's no wasted output. I haven't worked there in like 3 years but I've heard they still have that reputation and should be expanding to Colorado shortly, so I guess they're still doing something right.
ETA.. Rebirth Energy works out of N.O. and did the most thorough work from testing to appropriate measures that I saw. They can tell you the exact percentage of your AC units production that's making it to the registers and how much is being leaked, and perform balancing where they adjust the dampers on each register based on the square footage of each room so there's no wasted output. I haven't worked there in like 3 years but I've heard they still have that reputation and should be expanding to Colorado shortly, so I guess they're still doing something right.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 5:35 am
Posted on 10/26/16 at 4:59 am to mikie421
quote:
My A/C went out, has been on the outs for a few years, current system undersized by 1.5 tons. Got a quote today as follows after they conducted a Manual J test:
Complete install; new ducts, a/c, heat, condenser, hard duct main trunk with flex duct from trunk to registers. Adding a few registers here and there, adding return air duct from master bedroom to aid air exchange, 5" pleated filter.
Amana, 5 Ton, 410a, 20 SEER, variable speed compressor and variable speed blower.....$21,500
Amana, 5 ton, 410a, 16 SEER, two stage compressor and variable speed blower.....$17,000
Amana, 5 ton, 410a, 14 SEER, .....$15,000
I'm expecting top notch work from these guys, are these prices way too high? I was expecting more in the 10K range. Mandeville area.
No more than 7500
with duct work being replaced, need to know more but figure another 1500....
9-11 top end
higher SEER will cost more,yes, but these numbers are stupid high
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 8:08 am
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:59 am to mikie421
That's not ridiculously expensive and pretty much in line with what I've heard people paying. My in laws had their system changed out, smaller unit, no duct work and paid $12,500
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