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re: Hurricane Milton - The Cleanup Begins...
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:45 am to Wally Sparks
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:45 am to Wally Sparks
quote:
I'd gust her.
The pant suit is terrible.
She needs a better wardrobe manager
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:45 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
Looks like the cold front is showing up on schedule so all the steering mechanisms should be in place. Makes me wonder if the models will start converging more on a particular area.
It should. We've had planes outside of the storm and most of the SE NWS offices are launching balloons every six hours now. There is a lot of data going in now.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:47 am to Wally Sparks
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:47 am to rds dc
current track has it impacting Tampa at overnight on Thursday
Wednesday low tide is 2:19pm
Thursday high tide is 6:50am
so it’s going to be on a rising tide…
Wednesday low tide is 2:19pm
Thursday high tide is 6:50am
so it’s going to be on a rising tide…
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:48 am to triggeredmillennial
quote:
you may not be as smart as you think you are. and I think the word you are looking for is linearly not exponetially.
Bro, you played yourself.
quote:
The forces against structures do not increase linearly, they increase exponentially (power of 3), and as wind speed increases. A 241 kph (150 mph) wind is 20% stronger than a 201 kph (125 mph) wind. However, the destructive power of a 241 kph (150 mph) wind compared to a 201 kph (125 mph) wind is actually 73% greater.
Source
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:52 am to slackster
8nm eye diameter per recon.
I said this morning it reminded me a Wilma.
I said this morning it reminded me a Wilma.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 9:53 am
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:53 am to loogaroo
quote:
I said this morning it reminded me a Wilma.
Think he'll get that intense?
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:57 am to UnluckyTiger
quote:
This is what? The 4th major hurricane to hit that Tampa general area since 2022? And they hadn’t had one since 2004?
No
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:58 am to Wally Sparks
Hurricane Milton Discussion Number 10
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1000 AM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024
Milton's remarkable rapid intensification is continuing. Satellite
images show a small eye within the very cold central cloud cover,
and the eye is becoming better defined. Data from the Mexican
radar at Sabancuy show a small, closed eye with an intense eyewall
presentation. The Hurricane Hunter aircraft earlier reported a peak
flight-level wind of 146 kt, and dropsonde data show that the
pressure has fallen to around 933 mb, which is down about 22 mb in
4 hours. The initial wind speed is set to 135 kt, which is an
80-kt increase in 24 hours (only eclipsed by Wilma 2005 and Felix
2007 in our records).
The hurricane is still moving east-southeastward, now about 8 kt.
Global models continue to insist that Milton will turn eastward
soon as the frontal low pressure area over the northeastern Gulf of
Mexico departs. The new forecast near Mexico is about the same as
the previous one, but is close enough to bring hurricane-force
winds to the northern portion of Yucatan Peninsula. Later, a new
mid-level trough dropping into the northwestern Gulf of Mexico
should then cause Milton to move east-northeastward to northeastward
at a faster forward speed. The latest model fields are a bit left
of the previous runs, and the official NHC track forecast is shifted
to the north. This forecast is close to a consensus of the latest
GFS, ECMWF and regional hurricane models. Note that this track is
closer to the model fields rather than the model trackers which
appear to be too far south.
Milton is likely to become a category 5 hurricane later today
with light shear and very warm waters in its path. By tomorrow,
its intensity should be dictated by any eyewall replacement
cycles, which will likely cause the system to gradually weaken
but grow larger. After 36 h, Milton is expected to encounter a
much less favorable environment with strong shear and dry air
entrainment. Therefore, some weakening is anticipated before the
hurricane reaches the Florida Gulf coast. However, the system is
still likely to be a large and powerful hurricane at landfall in
Florida, with life-threatening hazards at the coastline and well
inland. After landfall, Milton should weaken and start extratropical
transition, which should be complete by 96 h.
Key Messages:
1. Damaging hurricane-force winds are expected across portions of
the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula. A life-threatening
storm surge with damaging waves is also likely along portions of
the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula.
2. There is an increasing risk of life-threatening storm surge and
damaging winds for portions of the west coast of the Florida
Peninsula beginning Tuesday night or early Wednesday. Storm Surge
and Hurricane Watches are now in effect for portions of the west
coast of the Florida Peninsula and residents in that area should
follow any advice given by local officials and evacuate if told to
do so.
3. Areas of heavy rainfall will impact portions of Florida today
well ahead of Milton, with heavy rainfall more directly related to
the system expected later on Tuesday through Wednesday night. This
rainfall will bring the risk of considerable flash, urban, and
areal flooding, along with the potential for moderate to major
river flooding.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 07/1500Z 21.7N 91.7W 135 KT 155 MPH
12H 08/0000Z 21.5N 90.4W 145 KT 165 MPH
24H 08/1200Z 22.2N 88.3W 140 KT 160 MPH
36H 09/0000Z 23.6N 86.4W 135 KT 155 MPH
48H 09/1200Z 25.5N 84.7W 125 KT 145 MPH
60H 10/0000Z 27.7N 82.8W 110 KT 125 MPH
72H 10/1200Z 29.2N 80.1W 80 KT 90 MPH
96H 11/1200Z 30.8N 71.0W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 12/1200Z 31.0N 66.0W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1000 AM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024
Milton's remarkable rapid intensification is continuing. Satellite
images show a small eye within the very cold central cloud cover,
and the eye is becoming better defined. Data from the Mexican
radar at Sabancuy show a small, closed eye with an intense eyewall
presentation. The Hurricane Hunter aircraft earlier reported a peak
flight-level wind of 146 kt, and dropsonde data show that the
pressure has fallen to around 933 mb, which is down about 22 mb in
4 hours. The initial wind speed is set to 135 kt, which is an
80-kt increase in 24 hours (only eclipsed by Wilma 2005 and Felix
2007 in our records).
The hurricane is still moving east-southeastward, now about 8 kt.
Global models continue to insist that Milton will turn eastward
soon as the frontal low pressure area over the northeastern Gulf of
Mexico departs. The new forecast near Mexico is about the same as
the previous one, but is close enough to bring hurricane-force
winds to the northern portion of Yucatan Peninsula. Later, a new
mid-level trough dropping into the northwestern Gulf of Mexico
should then cause Milton to move east-northeastward to northeastward
at a faster forward speed. The latest model fields are a bit left
of the previous runs, and the official NHC track forecast is shifted
to the north. This forecast is close to a consensus of the latest
GFS, ECMWF and regional hurricane models. Note that this track is
closer to the model fields rather than the model trackers which
appear to be too far south.
Milton is likely to become a category 5 hurricane later today
with light shear and very warm waters in its path. By tomorrow,
its intensity should be dictated by any eyewall replacement
cycles, which will likely cause the system to gradually weaken
but grow larger. After 36 h, Milton is expected to encounter a
much less favorable environment with strong shear and dry air
entrainment. Therefore, some weakening is anticipated before the
hurricane reaches the Florida Gulf coast. However, the system is
still likely to be a large and powerful hurricane at landfall in
Florida, with life-threatening hazards at the coastline and well
inland. After landfall, Milton should weaken and start extratropical
transition, which should be complete by 96 h.
Key Messages:
1. Damaging hurricane-force winds are expected across portions of
the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula. A life-threatening
storm surge with damaging waves is also likely along portions of
the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula.
2. There is an increasing risk of life-threatening storm surge and
damaging winds for portions of the west coast of the Florida
Peninsula beginning Tuesday night or early Wednesday. Storm Surge
and Hurricane Watches are now in effect for portions of the west
coast of the Florida Peninsula and residents in that area should
follow any advice given by local officials and evacuate if told to
do so.
3. Areas of heavy rainfall will impact portions of Florida today
well ahead of Milton, with heavy rainfall more directly related to
the system expected later on Tuesday through Wednesday night. This
rainfall will bring the risk of considerable flash, urban, and
areal flooding, along with the potential for moderate to major
river flooding.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 07/1500Z 21.7N 91.7W 135 KT 155 MPH
12H 08/0000Z 21.5N 90.4W 145 KT 165 MPH
24H 08/1200Z 22.2N 88.3W 140 KT 160 MPH
36H 09/0000Z 23.6N 86.4W 135 KT 155 MPH
48H 09/1200Z 25.5N 84.7W 125 KT 145 MPH
60H 10/0000Z 27.7N 82.8W 110 KT 125 MPH
72H 10/1200Z 29.2N 80.1W 80 KT 90 MPH
96H 11/1200Z 30.8N 71.0W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 12/1200Z 31.0N 66.0W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:00 am to Wally Sparks
quote:
Think he'll get that intense?
No way.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:01 am to BigBrod81
Hurricane Milton Advisory Number 10
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1000 AM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024
...MILTON CONTINUING TO RAPIDLY INTENSIFY..
...FORECAST TO BECOME A CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE...
SUMMARY OF 1000 AM CDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...21.7N 91.7W
ABOUT 130 MI...210 KM WNW OF PROGRESO MEXICO
ABOUT 720 MI...1160 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...155 MPH...250 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ESE OR 110 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...933 MB...27.55 INCHES
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1000 AM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024
...MILTON CONTINUING TO RAPIDLY INTENSIFY..
...FORECAST TO BECOME A CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE...
SUMMARY OF 1000 AM CDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...21.7N 91.7W
ABOUT 130 MI...210 KM WNW OF PROGRESO MEXICO
ABOUT 720 MI...1160 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...155 MPH...250 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ESE OR 110 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...933 MB...27.55 INCHES
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 10:02 am
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:04 am to BigBrod81
Great another night time landfall
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:09 am to CarolinaGamecock99
Bryan Norcross is saying 165 mph sustained this afternoon, then 160 this evening.
He is also saying don't worry about the numbers, that they are all dangerous and if you are in an evac zone, GTFO.
He is also saying don't worry about the numbers, that they are all dangerous and if you are in an evac zone, GTFO.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:10 am to Mr Clean
That’s actually a really good and understandable explanation of what the NHC forecast cone actually means.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:10 am to CarolinaGamecock99
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:10 am to IT_Dawg
people were talking about changing plans and i was simply adding to the discussion
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