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re: Hurricane Milton - The Cleanup Begins...

Posted on 10/8/24 at 1:28 am to
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
1128 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 1:28 am to
First stop is in Honduras tomorrow so probably not. They're ahead of it now.
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3251 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:50 am to
Flatland is awesome. I bet that show was killer. I’d have done it too.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
6369 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:30 am to
Saw Mumford and sons a few times at Red Rocks. Their music is tailor made for that place.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:40 am to
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Do we have anybody on the Carnival Liberty? If so, report in here

Having a blast. “Wish you were here.”

Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43290 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:45 am to
Milton is still a relatively compact hurricane, but the wind field
is expected to continue to grow in size as it approaches Florida.
In fact, the official forecast shows the hurricane and
tropical-storm-force winds roughly doubling in size by the time it
makes landfall. Therefore, damaging winds, life-threatening storm
surge, and heavy rainfall will extend well outside the forecast
cone. It is worth emphasizing that this is a very serious situation
and residents in Florida should closely follow orders from their
local emergency management officials. Milton has the potential to
be one of the most destructive hurricanes on record for west-central
Florida.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26686 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:53 am to
5am advisory has the cone shifted South some. CAT4 winds 155

This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 3:59 am
Posted by Bernie Bierman
Member since Mar 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:57 am to
What are the people staying in those high rise condos and apartments in downtown St. Pete in for during and after the storm? Are they in a relatively good spot?
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26686 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:02 am to
Still too tough to tell. That’s why they should evacuate like they were ordered. Being in a high rise, in St Pete with potentially no power and no where to go for many days sounds horrible to me.

Everyone on the coast from Ft Myers to Tampa need to seriously consider their evacuation plan asap this morning. Sarasota looks to be about the landfall spot based on 5am advisory
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
20223 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:07 am to


new eye looks good.. CDO is still really cold and the pink is wrapping again

Lots of lightening in the eyewall again..

Loop Current up ahead..

Likely some more RI today.. perhaps explosive like yesterday
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
10024 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:33 am to
Why did it weaken at all? Just can’t stay that way or was it from land proximity to Mexico?
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46765 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:34 am to
Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
8426 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:49 am to
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What are the people staying in those high rise condos and apartments in downtown St. Pete in for during and after the storm? Are they in a relatively good spot?


They’ll likely be safe but hearing that storm come through in the middle of the night is going to be a nightmare. Afterwards, they’re going to have no power, no service, and nowhere to go as downtown is going to be under water. People living in those condos and apartments have the money to evacuate, so I don’t see why anyone would stay to experience what’s about to happen.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77199 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:59 am to
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People living in those condos and apartments have the money to evacuate, so I don’t see why anyone would stay to experience what’s about to happen.
General bloody-mindedness.

I have family in Tampa and a few aren’t leaving. One is in the Westshore area that floods with rainstorms.

Another family lives in the Ballast Point area. They left. Nervous for them. May not have a home to go to. House is about 1 mile in and in a spot that got zero water from Helene, but this isn’t Helene.
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13634 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 5:00 am to
Friend,

Ideal conditions for strengthening or even maintaining category five conditions usually do not last for a long time. Humans do not understand all the factors at play to keep a peak performing storm at a peak, but those we do know about include atmospheric conditions that allow optimal heat transfer from the surface to the upper level, i.e. no shear, limited interaction with land, and warm, deep water, as that is the fuel used to grow and maintain. I propose the most likely causes of its rapid deterioration over the last twelve hours, from 897 mb to 924 mb, were the many hours it has spent over Campeche Bank, where water depth gradually slopes upward from a few hundred feet to 50 feet near the Yucatan Peninsula and a decrease in favorability in the upper atmospheric conditions. You will not hear people talk much about rapid deterioration, as opposed to rapid intensification, because order to disorder does not appeal to our minds, which were created from disorder and into order, as detailed in the Genesis creation story.

Even though some fear mongers might suggest there will be rapid intensification today because it is going over the Gulf Loop Current, that seems a bold projection that I find unlikely. To do so would mean the store would increase to 190 mph sustained at the least, becoming the strongest storm in the last fifty years, as that is really the only time period in which we have good records. As the storm’s central pressure rises, indicating a general trend of weakening, and it becomes a less efficient engine, expect an expansion of the wind field but no rapid intensification. It is difficult to attain perfect form once and even less likely twice. Sure, Allen was able to do in 1980, but that was the exception.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 5:03 am
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
20223 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 5:02 am to
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Why did it weaken at all? Just can’t stay that way or was it from land proximity to Mexico?

It went through an EWRC.
(EyeWall Replacement Cycle)

“In meteorology, eyewall replacement cycles, also called concentric eyewall cycles, naturally occur in intense tropical cyclones with maximum sustained winds greater than 33 m/s (64 kn; 119 km/h; 74 mph), or hurricane-force, and particularly in major hurricanes of Saffir–Simpson category 3 to 5. In such storms, some of the outer rainbands may strengthen and organize into a ring of thunderstorms—a new, outer eyewall—that slowly moves inward and robs the original, inner eyewall of its needed moisture and angular momentum. Since the strongest winds are in a tropical cyclone's eyewall, the storm usually weakens during this phase, as the inner wall is "choked" by the outer wall. Eventually the outer eyewall replaces the inner one completely, and the storm may re-intensify.”

Link: EWRC on Wikipedia
This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 5:05 am
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3206 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 5:04 am to
My parents live about half way between the track line and the northern edge of the cone ( in a pretty wooded area). They’re both in their 70’s and I’m out of the country for work.

Told them they could just go use my house in Mandeville for the storm (and aftermath until power comes back). They said no because they didn’t want to deal with throwing the cat in the car.

Tried to tell them it’s worth 10 hours of meowing to have internet, cell service, and power, as well as avoiding sitting around listening to hours worth of trees cracking all around you - let alone being inside when a pine tree splits your roof.

As of yet they’ve never dealt with a storm aftermath, and I’m afraid they’re about to learn.

They do have enough supplies and a (small) generator though.

So good (for my family anyway) to see the track bump just a hair south, but the cone is the cone and a northern wobble isn’t off the table. In addition weak side Cat 1 winds can snap trees that aren’t used to that wind - who knows what work the neighborhood termites have been doing? (Reference: Gustav impact in BR).
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2451 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 5:05 am to
I have some friends that live in Polk City and they are staying. He is retired from a Coast Guard helicopter rescue crew, so he stays prepared for these type of things. Anyone on here live in that area?

Why does it seem like all of these storms come in at night?
This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 5:10 am
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6016 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 5:07 am to
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so he stays prepared for these type of things.


K
Posted by SomethingLikeA
Member since Jul 2013
1232 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 5:10 am to
Will someone give Milton his damn red swingline stapler back so he calms the F down?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 5:15 am to


Unfortunately it appears the EWRC is complete and Milton’s inner structure is starting to strengthen again.
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