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re: Hurricane Irma - Spinning Down

Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:48 pm to
Read the GFS as saying it expects late intensification and not that it will certainly be that low.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33931 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

would just like for the people saying the hurricane center and models have totally missed something to give their reasoning why the projection is wrong. You know, fact based information that isn't just "nature is hard to predict"

For one, the storm is presently moving west and actually appears to maybe be moving a bit SW about to cross Cuba. I understand that this could be a wobble or possible eye wall replacement.

Having said that, why is the cone showing NW movement when radar is not?

I get that the cone is a forecast but the cone actually meets up with where the storm is located now.

Will we just continue to see the cone move further west every single advisory like the previous 20 have?

I think it's legitimate reason for concern.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43290 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:48 pm to
Yes, the GFS has been pretty consistent of it getting below 900mb. Now if it stays near or goes more inland over Cuba it probably would not be that strong.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30959 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

de1987
Is this storm expected to maintain intensity?

It went from Cat 5, to Cat 4, back to Cat 5.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51682 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:49 pm to
If Irma can just continue to skirt Cuba and not move over it very much, she should not lose too much strength. Even so, she will go over very warm waters once she makes the northward turn, and she will likely just continue to become a monster.

This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 10:51 pm
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10731 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

People are basing their families' welfare (in part) on this information.


God I hope not.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36751 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:50 pm to
How can Jose be so strong coming right behind Irma? Irma had to draw a tremendous amount of energy from that area and surely churn up some cooler water
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

An admin pointed this out as it happened. People were admonished and made to feel stupid for being worried about this thing potentially making it deep into the gulf because some projections put it there at the time, more than 5 days out. They were told to bank on a sharp turn that was projected more than 5 days out.



It was 6+ days out, which was the point of those discussions. There was no reason to worry about it going into the GOM that far out, regardless of what the models said about a turn or not. If you want to worry, fine, but it doesn't change the fact there was no logical reason to do so.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:50 pm to
Maybe im seeing shite but even on your radar that last frame is showing her lifting NW
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42410 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:50 pm to
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makes the northward turn


Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
16163 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

This.

There are a shite ton of people who seem disappointed they're not getting the storm right up their arse. I'll never understand it.




As someone that's read 99% of this entire thread from the beginning, it's clear there's a certain personality type present that does the exact shite mentioned above without realizing they're doing it. This thread would be pointless if we all just threw our gut opinions out there and didn't post/stand by/explain what the NHC and other PROFESSIONALS are expecting of this storm.

"But... but... but why aren't they focused on ME!!? TWC should be at MY house, talking to ME, cause I know what the hell I'm talkin bout! I totally live 6 hours away from the coast in northern Mississippi and I went through Camille, she tore a limb off my pine tree and it was insane! Because of all this experience I have, I should be included in every discussion and have my OWN forecast models based off my gut feelins! This thang is headed for Mississippi again, I can just feel it"
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46343 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

People were admonished


Must have missed that page. I thought people were told to stop making projections with no scientific data backing them up - just gut feelings. I don't completely disregard gut feelings, either. I think they are often a subconscious picking up on valid patterns and data.

Maybe this was just a difference of interpretation or tone not translating well online. Admins were also telling people to chill with the trolls.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:52 pm to
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What the hell happened in last hour to have 10 pages?


Trolls and Katrina Wishcasters.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53874 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44684 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

even on your radar that last frame is showing her lifting NW


I'm not seeing it.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
26638 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:53 pm to
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OKay Naples/Tampa baws



You have about ~18 hours to get your shite together.



Good luck. My boss left the Naples area this morning. 13 hours later and he hasn't reached Tallahassee yet.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15704 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:53 pm to
Shifted a bit to the west, track, and has resulted in much chatter/back and forth among some
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61722 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:54 pm to
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God I hope not.


Why not. Do you not see the update that happens all day on page 1? That there are some pretty well informed people posting here?
Did you follow the Harvey thread? A shitload of great info was shared in that thread that helped a lot of people.

Never mind, just watch the weather channel and follow facebook. I'm sure that will work out fine.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44684 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:54 pm to
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What the hell happened in last hour to have 10 pages?




Bob Breck opened our eyes.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:55 pm to
Its either a wobble jog to the North or its prematurely taking a northern move now but it definitely bounced North after hitting Cuba.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 10:55 pm
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