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Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:54 pm to rt3
SW eyewall
117 kt (~135 mph) winds at 275 m (~905 ft) high
117 kt (~135 mph) winds at 275 m (~905 ft) high
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:54 pm to maisweh
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That good or bad for Louisiana?
The answer comes later. Still watching it develope.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:54 pm to Carolina_Girl
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How's it looking for the Georgia/ South Carolina border?
I don't think anyone is "in the clear". If you are near the coast, I'd start making a few check lists , at least.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:55 pm to slackster
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I'd argue things look better for the GOM today
Thanks for the update my guy!
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:55 pm to rt3
am I reading this wrong or does the GFS have the trough basically gone by Friday afternoon?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:56 pm to HubbaBubba
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Probably going to be an annular hurricane
Just means it's round and well defined, right? Doesn't mean it necessarily gets stronger, right?
Annular hurricanes have better organization and are tighter wrapped. They don't have the far reaching outer bands full of rain but they typically have much stronger winds and they don't weaken as fast over land
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:57 pm to Duke
Now if the trough stays that low and pronounced throughout the next few forecast hours that'll be a much welcomed good sign, at least for now.
Edit- upon further inspection it looks like the ridge has grown to the south and west in this particular frame compared to earlier runs, gonna be hard to call yet again
Edit- upon further inspection it looks like the ridge has grown to the south and west in this particular frame compared to earlier runs, gonna be hard to call yet again
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:59 pm to RazorBroncs
Unfortunately trough starts lifting out shortly after the image Duke posted.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:59 pm to RazorBroncs
Can someone explain what trough means in relation to weather.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:00 pm to RazorBroncs
Doesn't look like it sticks based on the models though.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:00 pm to RazorBroncs
what am I missing? I'm not seeing the trough anywhere in play anymore


Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:01 pm to East Coast Band
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I don't think anyone is "in the clear". If you are near the coast, I'd start making a few check lists , at least.
Thanks. I'm about 60 miles from the Ga/SC coastal border by air.
ETA: Or 'as the crow flies'
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:03 pm to PhillipJFry
It's that big blue area of low pressure over the US. Weather works just like water where it flows to the area of least resistance, ie the lower pressure. The red is higher than average atmospheric pressure, or a ridge, that would push the water (read: weather) away.
The blue low pressure trough is sweeping east across the US and is supposed to be right off the east coast about the time Irma is making US landfall. If this trough is still strong enough and unimpeded it'll pull Irma in, ie NE direction. The problem with this is that these patterns are extremely hard to predict, and you also have that area of high pressure pushing Irma SW. The high pressure ridge could completely cut off Irmas path to the trough or push her SW enough to miss it, but it's equally as hard to predict.
The blue low pressure trough is sweeping east across the US and is supposed to be right off the east coast about the time Irma is making US landfall. If this trough is still strong enough and unimpeded it'll pull Irma in, ie NE direction. The problem with this is that these patterns are extremely hard to predict, and you also have that area of high pressure pushing Irma SW. The high pressure ridge could completely cut off Irmas path to the trough or push her SW enough to miss it, but it's equally as hard to predict.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:06 pm to Loungefly85
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If this storm hits south Texas I'd never trust a forecast again.
Why? The NHC doesn't issue a forecast past 5-days. The tools they use go out 10 days (Euro) and 16 days (GFS), but worrying past 5 days is on you, not the forecast.
We've been trying to say this kind of thing since the thread started, but people are getting caught up in the tail end of all of these runs.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:06 pm to rt3
Now, here is where it gets tricky. As the models try to resolve that wave break (ridges and troughs rolling against each other basically) what happens in the blue circle. At least on the 00z GFS, there appears to be a bit more ridging across the Gulf. How much energy gets left behind to form the weakness and how fast does Irma feel that and turn north?
ETA: Looks like slightly SW of 18z, so maybe all the extra data didn't make that big of a difference for the landfall area.
ETA: Looks like slightly SW of 18z, so maybe all the extra data didn't make that big of a difference for the landfall area.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:10 pm to rds dc
It just keeps jogging steadily to the west. I'm really anticipating this turn northward but none seems to be happening in any of the models.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:10 pm to rds dc
Based on the image, GFS is bringing her right up the spine of Florida. It'll take that little gap between the Mx ridge and the big Atlantic one.
Good explaination of the remaining difficulties. Subtle differences with big impacts left to resolve.
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As the models try to resolve that wave break (ridges and troughs rolling against each other basically) what happens in the blue circle. At least on the 00z GFS, there appears to be a bit more ridging across the Gulf. How much energy gets left behind to form the weakness and how fast does Irma feel that and turn north?
Good explaination of the remaining difficulties. Subtle differences with big impacts left to resolve.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:11 pm to RollTide1987
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It just keeps jogging steadily to the west. I'm really anticipating this turn northward but none seems to be happening in any of the models.
Are you talking about Irma's direction at the moment?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:11 pm to rds dc
Looks like this is going to be bad for Anguilla, usvi, bvi, st Bart's, and the northeast carribean. Guessing Luis in 95' was the last direct hit to this area from a major storm?
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