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re: Hurricane Irma - Spinning Down

Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:13 pm to
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:13 pm to
Coming in at Naples. Right where I need to be on that Monday morning.

Guess not.
Posted by PhillipJFry
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:14 pm to
Thank you. Had to read that like 5 times, but I think I get it now.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

Can someone explain what trough means in relation to weather.


That low pressure system coming across the US (colored blue on the map) that creates a weakness in the high pressure ridge and can open a door for Irma to turn northeast.

Basically a high pressure ridge creates an invisible wall a hurricane can't penetrate so the cane will follow the edge of it. But a low pressure trough will break that wall and create an opening for the hurricane to turn north.

But in this model the trough pulls away before Irma could utilize the opening and the high ridge builds back up underneath it
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:17 pm to
No bueno
Posted by CLane33
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:19 pm to
So if the trough lifts too soon, Irma will just continue to track west? That doesn't sound too good
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:19 pm to
so this model makes landfall in extreme south Florida and rides the west side of the state north
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:20 pm to
Question about the models...some of the spaghetti models end over one of the carribean islands, and some go all the way up to NE US, are those theoretical varying speeds of the storm? How far out is that model showing?
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:21 pm to
oh... and AF305 is positioning for... what I assume will be... its last pass through the eye of the storm
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:21 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102502 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:22 pm to
quote:


So if the trough lifts too soon, Irma will just continue to track west? That doesn't sound too good


It will track northwest and from what I see the potential path for when it turns northward is east coast of Florida to Mississippi gulf coast. The high ridge in Mexico will keep it from tracking farther west to Louisiana/Texas.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:24 pm to
That ridge is basically what's screwing the US right now too because if it wasn't as strong as it currently is it probably would've been pulled out to sea. It initially was not projected to be so strong by the computer models and pushed it much further South than originally thought.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51674 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

So if the trough lifts too soon, Irma will just continue to track west? That doesn't sound too good




Not that simple.

There's a little piece of energy rolling down and amplifying a bit over Ark/Mo that appears to open up the door between a little high pressure over Mexico/tx/la and the big Atlantic one.

We've got three ridges, an upper low that may or may not be there, and the trough over the NE. How all this works together will determine where the door opens up for a north swing.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:27 pm to
What scares me is her forward speed has slowed.

Any slower and she misses the trough.

Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:28 pm to
Looks a little more west than last run.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:29 pm to
Oh my god Florida is completely eaten up
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147069 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:29 pm to
should get some new dropsonde readings soon
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:30 pm to
Landfall at 888 and then ridong up FL is a nightmare scenario
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43290 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:31 pm to
Jose just chilling not knowing which way to go for now on the GFS.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147069 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

Landfall at 888 and then ridong up FL is a nightmare scenario

most everyone agrees it won't be near 888 at landfall

however 920, 925 would be just as devestating
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