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re: How Would You Handle? Employee spends too much on company card. But is top producer...
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:16 am to I Love Bama
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:16 am to I Love Bama
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You think I am bitching about this if he is with a client? No. He's eating alone or with some random he picked up.
I'd get one warning for a solo meal that large, then I'd be on my way out the door. With clients, no problems. It's not fair to compare revenue between various industries, but the sales I oversee are on the order of 10's of millions a year and a 250 dollar personal dinner would set off alarms real quick.
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:18 am to The Torch
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We sent our top five sales guys on a canned deer hunt years ago, one of them shot the "wrong" deer and it costs the company $28,000.00 It was some special breeder buck that was off limits My boss had smoke coming out of his ears for a few months but since it was a top producer he ate the costs
I hope he hung that motherfricker on the wall.
That’s what you call a lesson. Use it to teach
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:21 am to Jon A thon
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a 250 dollar personal dinner would set off alarms real quick.
Which leads right back to Obtuse1's point. If he's openly doing something in front of you what is he doing behind your back?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:22 am to I Love Bama
Bring it up politely in a private setting. Let him know that it's alright to splurge 2-3 times per year due to his excellent performance, but that the rest of the time he is expected to stay within the $125 limit.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:24 am to Jon A thon
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I oversee are on the order of 10's of millions a year and a 250 dollar personal dinner would set off alarms real quick.
that doesn't make sense, how many salesmen generate the "10's of millions a year?" $250 for a dinner if the guy just closed a deal for several mil is just a nice attaboy
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:29 am to 777Tiger
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$250 for a dinner if the guy just closed a deal for several mil is just a nice attaboy
Isnt that what sales bonuses are for? If you want to spend more than whats allotted, take it from the bonus.
Unless of course, the salesmen is the type of person who needs constant affirmation and validation (aka, hand holding).
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 9:30 am
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:29 am to 777Tiger
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that doesn't make sense, how many salesmen generate the "10's of millions a year?"
Tons
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$250 for a dinner if the guy just closed a deal for several mil is just a nice attaboy
It creates way more problems than you're aware of, both financially, ethically, and culturally
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:30 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Goddamn. Mingo and I agree on something. Hell hath frozen over.
I know. Don't get used to it.
I know. Don't get used to it.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:30 am to 777Tiger
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hat doesn't make sense, how many salesmen generate the "10's of millions a year?" $250 for a dinner if the guy just closed a deal for several mil is just a nice attaboy
I work in the oilfield. The numbers are just inflated due to the nature of our work. Every single job we do can be in the several million dollar range. So every sales person is working accounts that large. I'm not special for doing so. They can easily find someone else to do the work that doesn't require a $250 dollar meal on top of my salary, bonuses, and stock awards....
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:31 am to Salmon
Did he treat himself or take a client out to eat?
Details matter in these cases.
Details matter in these cases.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:32 am to Carson123987
One thing to remember is not getting flack with expense card spending may be a very attractive part of this job for him.
Basically, I would say, “I don’t care if you go over your expense account On occasion, you’ve earned that…I just need a heads up when it happens so I can take care of things on my end…”
Basically, I would say, “I don’t care if you go over your expense account On occasion, you’ve earned that…I just need a heads up when it happens so I can take care of things on my end…”
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:32 am to I Love Bama
Let your winners run...motivation for the rest...
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:33 am to I Love Bama
Hey man the coffee is for closers.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:33 am to deltaland
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Did he treat himself or take a client out to eat?
OP stated it was not a client dinner which don't fall under per diem rules anyway.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:35 am to VABuckeye
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OP stated it was not a client dinner which don't fall under per diem rules anyway.
What I don't understand is why he knows how much he's spending on per diem. Per diem is a reimbursement and he shouldn't be privy to what the guy is spending either way. It's $125 a day whether the dude gets a burrito from 7/11 or goes to a steakhouse. Anything over that is taxable to the employee.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:36 am to Dire Wolf
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sales guy here that has had good bosses and horrible bosses.
my good managers would just pull me aside, yada yada about having another good month then tell me to reel in my bar tabs on the company card. Not make a big deal about it but put it out there. "skip the app next time" kind of thing
My bad managers would either talk shite behind my back to other sales reps or in a monthly meeting bring it up to embarrass me. "we have some sales reps that think they can spend $250 a night at the steakhouse" kind of thing.
Same, I didn't mind when my one sales manager in the flow of a conversation just said, be mindful of the spending for me please. You bet, and it's because he respected me and I respected him.
I had the other as you also pointed out and he was a major douche. Was demoted to a role not dealing with anyone but inventory management between the manufacturer and the dealership.
If Op has the respect of the sales rep then he can have this conversation.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:38 am to Jon A thon
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I work in the oilfield.
I was living in Lafayette during the oil boom of the of the late 70s, early 80s, there were no holds barred, every one who didn't wear a hard hat seemed to have a company car and credit cards, I never worked in the oil business but a friend of mine was a corporate pilot for a company based in Lafayette at the time, he got me checked out on the company jet so that when he wanted time off I could fill in for him, his boss gave me three credit cards and told me I could use them(within reason,) even when I wasn't filling in, I've seen some incredible charges racked up on those cards and at the time at least, nothing ever sounded off any alarms
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:39 am to stout
quote:I almost forgot how much of a fig this cat is
I thought you were just a landlord now and just traveled all over?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:41 am to I Love Bama
Very subtle, “I’m in sales” brag.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:41 am to I Love Bama
i'm the top producer at my company and i'm scared shitless of spending $40 at a single meal.
my boss has never once talked to me about my CC usage other than when i've bought company stuff on amazon or pay pal and i always have the receipts.
my boss has never once talked to me about my CC usage other than when i've bought company stuff on amazon or pay pal and i always have the receipts.
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