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How Would You Handle? Employee spends too much on company card. But is top producer...

Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:23 am
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37705 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:23 am
I have not said anything yet and not sure if I am going to say anything.

We are a small business. One of our employee's crushes it and makes a ton of money for the company.

We have per diem rules in place for everyone ($125 a day) and he really just ignores them completely.

Last night he dropped $250 at high end steak house for dinner alone.

If this were an average producer, I would be raining hail fire but this guy is probably triple in revenue than the next closest guy.

I don't mind rewarding him but seeing him completely disregard the per diem rule has me feeling uneasy.

Is this an ego thing on my end and I should leave this alone or should I talk to him? I really don't want to rock the boat as I said he is a top producer.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65884 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:24 am to
perks are for winners
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 8:04 am
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32647 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:24 am to
You better get Chad in line. If not next thing you know your kids are calling him Daddy
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119120 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:24 am to
quote:

We have per diem rules in place for everyone ($125 a day) and he really just ignores them completely.

Last night he dropped $250 at high end steak house for dinner alone.


Sounds like you work for him and not the other way around.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
9481 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:25 am to
If you have a rule, enforce it.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124155 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:25 am to
Was he taking a client out for dinner? Is he gonna close a big deal worth way more than a couple hundred bucks?

Rules are there to limit the losses of losers. Winners bend them to win the game.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:25 am to
If this in finance that's in violation of FINRA rules baw.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167230 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:25 am to
I thought you were just a landlord now and just traveled all over?
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15586 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:26 am to
Don’t let a penny hold up a dollar.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83557 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:26 am to
"Hey man, I don't mind you treating yourself every now and then since you have earned it, but try to keep most of the meals within the per diem limit."

If your other employees find out you let him slide, they will start to as well.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38970 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:26 am to
Does it average out to $125/day overall?
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53760 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:26 am to
I'd treat it like I do with my kids.

Sometimes, rules can be flexible and make sure he knows that. BUT, he has to understand you know about it and are choosing to allow it. Moving forward, anything over the $125 is acceptable but only 50% of whatever is over $125 will be approved and he can cover the rest himself up to $____.
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 7:27 am
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37705 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:26 am to
quote:

Rules are there to limit the losses of losers. Winners bend them to win the game.


This is where I am leaning.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:26 am to
quote:

raining hail fire


That would be something to see.

And did he spend $250 solo or was he entertaining clients?
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37705 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:27 am to
quote:

And did he spend $250 solo or was he entertaining clients?


Solo or with a tinder skank i assume
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
10682 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:27 am to
If he's making you a ton of money why are you sweating over $125?
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4450 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:27 am to
i can only hope that you have a good (professional and personal) relationship with this person. Assuming that is accurate, then laughingly mention it.

"Dude, is that really necessary? You know if you did not produce the numbers that you produce, then this would be a very different conversation."

In the case that your company has profit sharing....that is an easy point to make. He is cutting into profits by his elevated spending.

You are over thinking the sh!t out of this.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7219 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:27 am to
I would definitely have a talk with him. Not to fuss at him but a level headed discussion. I would probably even tell him he’s allowed to spend more if he’s that big of a producer. I just don’t think you can avoid the situation bc it will only get worse.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37705 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:28 am to
quote:

I thought you were just a landlord now and just traveled all over?


You're a little behind. Sold almost all my RE this last year.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124155 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:28 am to
quote:

"Hey man, I don't mind you treating yourself every now and then since you have earned it, but try to keep most of the meals within the per diem limit." If your other employees find out you let him slide, they will start to as well.



I’ve got a better idea.

He’s just getting the “top producer bonus” which increases the daily limit for that guy.


If the other employees want that, they have to outsell him. and if he wants to keep that perk he has to stay on top
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