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re: How will SpaceX protect a massive amount of infrastructure from Hurricanes/flooding

Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15879 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:23 pm to
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I have a feeling Elon and his team of engineers have already thought about this and will somehow be better prepared than the local politicians in LA.


Exactly. This sounds like the locals in NOLA yucking it up at Elon when NOLA was on a finalist list for a Boring Company tunneling project. “Lawlz he musta neva been to NAWLINS bafore! Ders watah down der!”
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1763 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:24 pm to
Do you really think one of the top companies in the world did not research this before investing $100 billion into this project?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53625 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Starbase Texas and Cape Canaveral are also similar situated on land that can be majorly affected by hurricanes. Underlying foundation maybe different (I genuinely don't know) but proximity to the Gulf/Atlantic is a flood concern either way.


It’s on the coast but the position is in a low probability of actually getting hit. Direct hit once every 20 years or so.
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
7173 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:26 pm to
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be better prepared than the local politicians in LA.


lol, that’s not saying a whole lot.
Posted by Novastar
Member since Jan 2023
1044 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:34 pm to
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It boggles the mind how they are going to make all of that resistant to those things. Anyone with experience in engineering or with plants along that way have any insight?


Port Fourchon - 15% of U.S. oil supply supported + essentially the entire deepwater Gulf oil-and-gas service base + a proposed 25 MTPA LNG export terminal. It's survived many storms since the 1960's.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40405 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:34 pm to
It’ll be hardened infrastructure with reinforced concrete. What’s so hard to understand?
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39284 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:36 pm to
Properly maintained engineering. It will be new technology here
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36691 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:41 pm to


Same way he have since the Miami-Dade code implementations of the 90s. Also, the force of a rocket launch on a structure is more demanding than wind loads ever will be.

As far as flooding is concerned there are several ways to deal with water but you aren't operating in flood conditions so it's about post-flood cleanup. I'm not familiar with BFE in the area so I can't say if elevating structures with fill makes sense but I've done plenty of equipment structures meant to keep critical equipment well above flood levels.

These things drive costs of construction up but you'd be surprised with what is possible when money isn't a factor.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131950 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:42 pm to
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Do you really think one of the top companies in the world did not research this before investing $100 billion into this project?



No, I don't think that.

Where do you see me alleging that?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131950 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:42 pm to
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Exactly. This sounds like the locals in NOLA yucking it up at Elon when NOLA was on a finalist list for a Boring Company tunneling project. “Lawlz he musta neva been to NAWLINS bafore! Ders watah down der!”



I don't imply anything like that for even a question.

It was literally asking for insight because its interesting
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36691 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:43 pm to
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New Orleans is maybe not the best example.


Why not?



The code is still the code even if your base wind speed is higher. We figured these things out a while ago.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117318 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:45 pm to
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Venture Global built a 30' zombie wall all the way around CP2.


This

Theres gonna be a shitton of concrete for this project.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23358 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:48 pm to
Yo can build stuff to be Hurricane resistant. It just cost a lot more.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36691 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:50 pm to
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What's under the ground surface throughout that area? Are there areas containing bedrock at certain depths or other solid sediment, or is it basically a silty area for the most part?


All deep foundation designs are based on preliminary borings that log the type and depths of the different layers. You go down as far as you need to hit a firm enough layer (we never hit bedrock in LA, it is very deep here) to achieve the required capacity. I've seen some foundations go 120'+ below grade until they hit a firm enough layer but above that is usually a mix of sand/silt/soft clay.
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
6014 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:52 pm to
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It boggles the mind


Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17213 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:52 pm to
I'm pretty sure it will be a little more durable that a shrimp boat dock.

Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25940 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:52 pm to
Same as the do in Boca chica I would imagine
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15879 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:53 pm to
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I don't imply anything like that for even a question. It was literally asking for insight because its interesting


I’ve gotcha, man. Sorry didn’t mean that for you, but I’ve seen that response in a mocking tone all over Facebook and the like.
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
1384 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:55 pm to
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You go down as far as you need to hit a firm enough layer (we never hit bedrock in LA, it is very deep here) to achieve the required capacity. I've seen some foundations go 120'+ below grade until they hit a firm enough layer but above that is usually a mix of sand/silt/soft clay.


Just be careful not to hit a salt mine or we might drain the Gulf!
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
19140 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:56 pm to
A shite load of insurance i imagine.
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