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re: How tough is law school?
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:21 pm to MeauxMoney
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:21 pm to MeauxMoney
If you
(A) have a full scholarship
(B) some guarantee of employment
And
(C) have thoroughly experienced working as a lawyer (by say working for a law firm)
Then MAYBE it would be worth it if someone was holding a gun to your head.
(A) have a full scholarship
(B) some guarantee of employment
And
(C) have thoroughly experienced working as a lawyer (by say working for a law firm)
Then MAYBE it would be worth it if someone was holding a gun to your head.
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Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:22 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Pretty much all of the most unattractive women I have ever been around were in my section. None in my class were truly hot. The best were only attractive compared to the rest. In general public they were less than average. Many were horny though.
3) This:
quote:
Law school is full of hot sluts that want to bang (and eventually marry) lawyers. I'd go just to get some tang and then drop out at the very least.
Isn't true at all
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:22 pm to BabyTac
law school is not horribly difficult if you're smart. if you're not smart, you won't get in. Tons of reading, but you need to be able to comprehend, recognize and apply what you read.
as an engineer, you will understand the material, but will frick up the exams. You have spent your scholastic and professional life gathering information, plugging it into the engineering brain, and coming up with THE answer. you will try to answer the question, which will net you very low grades. Lawyers don't have answers and law professors don't want answers. Only Judges have answers. law professors want students to recognize the legal issues contained in exam questions and discuss the possible remedies/outcomes. issue spotting is way more important than a solution.
as an engineer, you will understand the material, but will frick up the exams. You have spent your scholastic and professional life gathering information, plugging it into the engineering brain, and coming up with THE answer. you will try to answer the question, which will net you very low grades. Lawyers don't have answers and law professors don't want answers. Only Judges have answers. law professors want students to recognize the legal issues contained in exam questions and discuss the possible remedies/outcomes. issue spotting is way more important than a solution.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:23 pm to piratedude
quote:
Tons of reading
This is overblown. I stopped reading after my first year
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:25 pm to BabyTac
I say frick all these assholes, you should go, there's definitely not enough lawyers... There's still like 2-3% of valuable profession market share available...
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:25 pm to piratedude
quote:
if you're not smart, you won't get in.
Ehh....
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:26 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
...their isn't necessarily a hierarchy of skill sets...
But, spelling and grammar count.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:28 pm to BabyTac
Easy
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:30 pm to piratedude
quote:
s. issue spotting is way more important than a solution.
Hopefully in terms of law school, right?
I mean I need answers when building a bridge.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:30 pm to BabyTac
If you either
A) Want to be an attorney and planning on finishing in the top 10%-15% OR
B) Want to be an attorney at your dads/moms/brothers/uncles firm
then go.
I would definitely suggest working at a firm prior to going though.
ETA: What CorporateTiger said
A) Want to be an attorney and planning on finishing in the top 10%-15% OR
B) Want to be an attorney at your dads/moms/brothers/uncles firm
then go.
I would definitely suggest working at a firm prior to going though.
ETA: What CorporateTiger said
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:30 pm to BabyTac
quote:
Well...I wouldnt go expecting a different job or career. Just to boost my current opportunities with the company or field I'm already in...compliance/regulatory stuff.
Are the opportunities worth going to law school?
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:35 pm to BabyTac
Candidly, I think few engineers excel in law. Law school requires a very high tolerance for ambiguity. Engineers typically don't do well on that front. Just my opinion.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 4:41 pm to Boagni Swamp
Ain't nuttin wrong with that...
Posted on 12/15/15 at 6:38 pm to MeauxMoney
quote:
If you're going to school on full scholarship would you still not recommend it?
Depends on the school, but still probably not. People are under the very mistaken impression that all lawyers are rich, which couldn't be farther from the truth.
Many lawyers--especially lawyers in the south not working in Houston, Dallas, or Atlanta--are not making bank. The only lawyers who leave law school making six-plus figures are those working at big firms ("biglaw"), and the vast majority (probably 85-90%) of those graduated from one of the elite top-14 schools. Those that didn't were at the very top of their class in less highly regarded (but still solid) schools.
If you aren't going to a top-14 school (with the exceptions of Vanderbilt, Texas, UCLA and USC), I wouldn't waste my time, even with a big scholarship, unless you don't mind making 60k for life (but then you'll never be an OT baller). There is such a thing as opportunity cost, and wasting three years in law school is expensive in that regard.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 6:40 pm to Belvedere
quote:
Many lawyers--especially lawyers in the south not working in Houston, Dallas, or Atlanta--are not making bank. The only lawyers who leave law school making six-plus figures are those working at big firms ("biglaw"), and the vast majority (probably 85-90%) of those graduated from one of the elite top-14 schools. Those that didn't were at the very top of their class in less highly regarded (but still solid) schools.
Most of this is not true. It's not all that far from the truth, but it is exaggerated.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 6:46 pm to Belvedere
quote:
Many lawyers--especially lawyers in the south not working in Houston, Dallas, or Atlanta--are not making bank. The only lawyers who leave law school making six-plus figures are those working at big firms ("biglaw"), and the vast majority (probably 85-90%) of those graduated from one of the elite top-14 schools. Those that didn't were at the very top of their class in less highly regarded (but still solid) schools.
Well, you would be incorrect. And you're an idiot if you go to law school expecting to make 6 figures coming out.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 6:49 pm to TheOcean
OP, You have to pay your dues. Work for the DA for a while as an assistant; get your network going.
It takes a while to do that; but it's not impossible. If you think within a structured plane; and how that can relate to law; then go to law school.
Who cares how you have to do it.
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 12/15/15 at 6:57 pm to BabyTac
I too have an engineering background and am in the regulatory side of things...
my thoughts are that your company is already paying you what they want to pay for someone in your position (plus or minus some local and performance dollars) and that pay is based on folks that have similar duties in similar industries. just because you get a law degree, they are not going to find you any more or less valuable unless you actually change jobs because of it.
law school is expensive as hell, and if you can't be sure that you are going to make a good bit more money, I wouldn't do it because the payback just won't be there for you.
my thoughts are that your company is already paying you what they want to pay for someone in your position (plus or minus some local and performance dollars) and that pay is based on folks that have similar duties in similar industries. just because you get a law degree, they are not going to find you any more or less valuable unless you actually change jobs because of it.
law school is expensive as hell, and if you can't be sure that you are going to make a good bit more money, I wouldn't do it because the payback just won't be there for you.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 7:14 pm to beachdude
quote:
But, spelling and grammar count.
I'm ashamed. I've been doing it all day. I've had to edit a number of posts for mistakes, it's weird.
Posted on 12/15/15 at 8:52 pm to BabyTac
Not hard at all
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