re: How The Sugar Industry Shifted The Blame To Fat

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What do you have super trainer?

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A fat gut from eating empty carbs and drinking too much beer.

A flabby, soft arse from not doing any exercise.

A little bit of a chub from exchanging posts with a real bad arse.

I'll drink to that.

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Or rather, I think the effect carbs have is overblown for the general majority.

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It has been and especially by people who know vastly less on the topic than they should. "Modern jackass" movement against carbs is ridiculous, so much so that I know folks who eschew carbs in all forms. Some of these same spend $$ on protein supplements, go to the gym several times a week, and wonder why they are growing muscle or getting stronger.

Activity is VERY important but most people know that it all starts in the kitchen. You can't consume garbage all the time and not have it take a toll.

You may have a good message but gargling douche water makes you hard to understand.

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I blame people.

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Ah, the sloth hypothesis. That is a pretty pessimistic place to be (and not my real world experience helping people).

There is no doubt that activity is a vital part of a healthy lifestyle. However, thinking that you can indefinitely ramp up or even maintain your current level of activity as you age is very short sighted (wreaks of machismo)

The factor with the best long term return on investment is the diet. This factor can be sustained indefinitely if people are given the right instructions individualized to them.

TIME is the main non-renewable resource saved by making the diet the focus instead of an activity centric approach.

I know many broken, frustrated, driven people who refuse to change what they eat, disregard sleep and stress management, and just keep working out harder to tread water (for a while until pathologies set in).

Dr Kirk Parsely, Navy Seal, MD (to the Navy Seals) outlines this consistent phenomenon (with metabolically and hormonally broken SEALS due in large part to poor sleep and overtraining). There are many podcasts available if you want to take a listen.

If you sustain the myopic "drive it like you stole it" approach to health, you will head down a predictable broken path that myself or someone similiar will be happy to profit off from you in the future...

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Try cocaine. Much easier on the enamel but still has a lot of weight-loss properties.

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My mouth full of crowns begs to differ.

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Did you read the OP?

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If you have industry funded data being put out that vilifies the consumption of a macronutrient (fat) or down plays the impact of the another (sugar) that leads to government policy that is instituted, that is problematic.

If you have the population reduce fat intake, by default carb intake has to rise. If the void was being filled by fruits and veggies, no problem. Instead, most Americans who are trying to maintain their "active" lifestyles have little TIME to prepare traditional foods that have now been vilified. Instead of eating eggs, eat cereal. Instead of a beef roast, eat this frozen Lean Cuisine, drink this sugary Gatorade while you exercise, etc. Processed food, simple sugars, and fructose rise to occasion.

The results of this experiment have played out. More obesity, more DM, more cancer, more diseases of Western Civilzation.

The book I posted on page 3 of this thread (Big Fat Suprise) outlines all of the very questionable studies and practices of the food industry to support its products (which also influenced government policy and the sad state we are in)

Critical think much???

I am out. You can have the last word.

A calorie surplus is the main issue.

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How do you guys feel about artificial sweeteners or diet soft drinks re. impact on low carb diets?

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Certain sugar alcohols have been shows to have 0 impact on insulin response.

I honestly intake a lot of erythritol.. Probably should could back on it but overall studies don't show that they do much of anything to the body, so I don't concern myself with it very much.

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Started this yesterday. Currently having a case of the runs. Is that normal?

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Started what, keto?

Definitely normal. Ketosis is a natural diuretic. You are probably beginning to flush lots of water. I typically drop 8-10 pounds of just water when I switch to low carb. Gain that much back when I am eating carbs consistently.

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To avoid the 'carb flu', take in a lot of sodium and supplement magnesium.