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re: How The Sugar Industry Shifted The Blame To Fat

Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:36 pm to
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Good to hear. I saw someone mention potassium and magnesium supplements. How many mg's should I take a day?



Keto Subreddit FAQ
Posted by AZBadgerFan
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since May 2013
1883 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:16 pm to
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It's not a conspiracy. It's a fact. Like how they got marijuana outlawed.


Someone has been listening Joe Rogan's podcast
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39857 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:21 pm to
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I have unlimited sugar intake and weight is no issue for me.


Weight is but one of many "issues" on the list. You should be much more concerned with the havoc being wreaked on every cell in your body by a constant onslaught of sugar. Get back to me when you are 65 and things like diabetes, cancer and alzheimers start popping up.

But on top of that, you're wrong about activity. Diet is vastly more relevant in maintaining weight than exercise.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93314 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:28 pm to
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You should be much more concerned with the havoc being wreaked on every cell in your body by a constant onslaught of sugar


kids. they don't listen. they know it all at 18 years old because they can eat 25 bags of skittles in a row and a 2 liter coke and don't gain weight.

Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3733 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:28 pm to
I can't remember the documentary name, but i remember seeing one that basically compared processed sugar to cocaine. The same things happen in your body when you ingest either.

Pretty crazy. I am by no means living by eating a perfect diet, but I try to limit the amount of sugar I eat. Carbs (mainly beer and bread) are another story though

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93314 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:30 pm to
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i remember seeing one that basically compared processed sugar to cocaine. The same things happen in your body when you ingest either.


see (4) on the chart above. it explains it.

eta one more

This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39857 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:02 pm to
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I try to limit the amount of sugar I eat. Carbs (mainly beer and bread) are another story though


Yeah, the next step for you is to admit to yourself that beer and bread are effectively nothing but sugar and try to limit those also. They do make some low carb bread that isn't bad.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:05 pm to
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I try to limit the amount of sugar I eat. Carbs (mainly beer and bread) are another story though



Carbs turn to sugar though.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:06 pm to
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You should be much more concerned with the havoc being wreaked on every cell in your body by a constant onslaught of sugar. Get back to me when you are 65 and things like diabetes, cancer and alzheimers start popping up.


Great NY Times article

LINK

Guess what is the major driver of insulin....


quote:

Elevated insulin is also strongly associated with obesity, which is expected soon to overtake smoking as the leading cause of preventable cancer. Cancers linked to obesity and diabetes have more receptors for insulin and IGF-1, and people with defective IGF-1 receptors appear to be nearly immune to cancer. Retrospective studies, which look back at patient histories, suggest that many people who develop colorectal, pancreatic or breast cancer have elevated insulin levels before diagnosis. It’s perhaps not entirely surprising, then, that when researchers want to grow breast-cancer cells in the lab, they add insulin to the tissue culture. When they remove the insulin, the cancer cells die.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93314 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:22 pm to
Nah sugar is harmless
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:46 pm to
Frick you. Laziness is to blame for fat.
I love when people think they are going to lose weight just by changing the way they eat without exercising.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:52 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 8:04 am
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:54 pm to
Lolz works for like 2 weeks.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:58 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 8:03 am
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:03 pm to
Please elaborate. It is extremely difficult to lose weight and keep it off without exercising. Eating less will work fine for a few weeks but eventually said person will cave and put the weight back on. There is no way to get around living a healthy life without exercising
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:07 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 8:03 am
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:12 pm to
have any of the ketotards ITT posted pictures yet?


makes me cringe reading this shite


Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:14 pm to
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Sugar IS the issue.


u mad i eat pop tarts, crepes, diet soda, candy bars, etc nearly everyday and stay ~10% bf

enjoy your butter and cream (lol)
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:14 pm to
Did not contradict myself. Yes by cave I mean eat like shite again.

Eating less without exercising is not an effective or efficient way to lose weight. Bottom line
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:20 pm to
While well structured exercise is important for health, the quality of the diet is the bigger factor.

Too many people are stuck in the simplistic model that you just need to move more/eat less. This is a very crude way to think about it. Using that construct, a person could be compelled to believe all they have do is exercise their way out of the problem. This is not sustainable long term due to the inevitable attrition that occurs to the body.

A better construct is to view food as information. Meal timing and macronutrient composition can have a huge, amplified impacts due to the effects of hormones on many levels. With this mindset it makes more sense to "feed you activity level". When exercising, recover with more generous carb intake. When sedentary, restrict carbs and rely of fat/proteins. This approach is far more sustainable /effective by a person at any age. The limitation is that it actually requires more critical thinking than "I will just work harder"
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