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re: How The Sugar Industry Shifted The Blame To Fat
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:32 pm to mastersleestak
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:32 pm to mastersleestak
Very doubtful, but I would speculate that the average person would dismiss their opinions (based on research) before reading the research if it didn't agree with their preconceived notions.
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:35 pm to SirSaintly
Enjoying reading this thread, Thanks OP and everyone else.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 2:18 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Keto diets are great for losing quick weight and moving numbers like that, but how sustainable is it as a lifestyle?
I find it very sustainable. I'm never hungry. Fat satiates like nothing else. Sometimes I actually have a hard time meeting my caloric requirements b/c I'm not hungry.
I also no longer have a sweet tooth. I do not crave candy or ice cream etc. Boss can bring in donuts and I don't even feel tempted. The upside to this is I'm not having a sugar or carb crash at 2pm like many of my coworkers who need a pick me up, which is usually more sugar. My blood sugar is at a constant even level, no spikes or ups & downs.
Once I hit goal weight( about another 5-6lbs, I'll bump carbs up to 30-40 a day, but they will still come from veggies, nuts, and fruits like berries. Will never go back to eating a hidden sugar laden diet filled with low-fat foods.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 2:32 pm to LSUfan20005
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Sleep Quality - We saw a decent number of complaints over sleep quality. It's almost undeniable that evening carbs help downregulate and start the cascade of serotonin to help ease into sleep.
I have no issues with sleep. I get 8 hrs a night, at least. Fall asleep easy and wake up refreshed. Some may attribute this to the potassium and magnesium supplement I take.
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Gut Health - You've got to really work to provide enough food for a healthy gut flora. It's possible, but the "meat & eggs" and minimal veggie Keto dudes will jack their guts up over time.
I eat a lot of veggies along with my meat. Mostly spinach, cauliflower and broccoli. I also take a Magnesium & Potassium supplement due to the amount of water I drink. It's essential to replenish electrolytes. I take this about 8pm and it really helps with sleep as well.
Many who just start doing low carb without really researching it, get the Keto flu. You're supposed to drink at least 64oz of water a day. This flushes out the electrolytes. You need to replenish your sodium, Magnesium and potassium. Many do this with a salt substitute(most contain potassium and magnesium as well)
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 2:49 pm to Tigeralum2008
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I think they produce something like 85% of the sugar for the american market.
6 million pounds of sugar per day for 360M americans!
7M pounds a day and 20% of the market.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:09 pm to litenin
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omething as simple as intermittent fasting can be a huge benefit to health. I've never done a formal 'diet' but have incorporated things such as IF to supplement overall health.
So what's the deal with this intermittent fasting??
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:11 pm to HaveMercy
you don't eat on days that start with a T.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:20 pm to HaveMercy
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So what's the deal with this intermittent fasting??
It can vary from person to person. I do it M-F. I basically eat all of my calories in an 8hr window from 12pm to 8pm. Which basically means I skip breakfast although I do drink black coffee. It's not a big deal for me b/c I don't usually start getting hungry until about 11:30-45 or so and by then it's almost time for lunch.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:22 pm to SirSaintly
and you just eat whatever you want during the 8 hour window?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:26 pm to tgrbaitn08
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and you just eat whatever you want during the 8 hour window?
No, it still has to fit my macros and not have carbs or a limited amount.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:29 pm to Langston
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exercise routine
mostly irrelevant for weight loss
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:30 pm to SirSaintly
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SirSaintly
Thanks for starting this thread.
Another key article for me was from back in April:
The Sugar Conspiracy
It's a comprehensive survey of the history of the issue.
Bottom line: dietary fat/cholesterol have very little bearing on your blood levels. This is precisely the opposite of what was beat into us the past 45 years. Sugar is what is causing plaque in your arteries, not fat.
Instead of an egg-white omelette and wheat toast have a big cheesy multi-yolk omelette (and cook it in heavy butter) with bacon and sausage and skip the toast.
Sugar is nothing more than a low-grade poison. The key is in admitting to yourself that sugar shows up in many places where you probably aren't thinking of it as sugar. e.g. bread, potatoes, pasta, rice
Meals that used to look more or less healthy to me now look simply like sugar with more sugar piled on top. e.g. Quinoa salad is terrible for you.
I've really enjoyed upping my cheese intake. Like you, I don't really miss anything except for pie. I never think about chips or potatoes anymore.
Perhaps most relevantly, sugar is being increasingly linked with cancer and alzheimers (in addition to the known link to heart disease).
I urge everyone to take an unbiased look at the facts and make at least some attempt to minimize your sugar intake.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:30 pm to SirSaintly
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SirSaintly
Any online guides you can point me to? I know you mentioned Reddit, but that site gives me a headache.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:34 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Big Scrub TX
i started in on this on page one of the original PUTTADAFORKDOWN thread on the FD board years ago.
its great to see people using the internet to educate themselves on stuff we've been spoonfed for years which is a flat out lie.
food pyramid LOL more like food LOBBYIST pyramid sponsored by the sugar & grain industries.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:37 pm to McLemore
There are two big enemies of American heart health right now:
#1 - Sugar. Sugar is no doubt the real enemy. Typical Americans eat way, way, WAY too much sugar on a day-to-day basis and it is definitely the leading cause of obesity, imo.
#2 - Overconsumption of carbohydrates. For so long, we were told that carbs were supposed to be the base of the pyramid of our daily eating. This led to people eating 50%+ of their daily calories from carbs, but not exercising nearly enough to burn it off. This, coupled with the consumption of carbs being those that lack nutrition (re: processed carbs, like white bread and white rice), and we have a nation that's eating way too much sugar, ingesting way too many carbs, and not getting enough nutrients.
I was a very large (pun intended) advocate for keto/low carb for a long time, but I've switched to a balanced, sensible diet with 40/30/30 protein/fat/carb ratio, but keeping my sugar to less than 30g/day, and it's great. I focus mostly on the calories and protein intake, but I do pay attention to carb and fat intake also. I try to get at least 4-5 servings of vegetables a day. This is working well for me, and it is easily adaptable when eating out and such.
#1 - Sugar. Sugar is no doubt the real enemy. Typical Americans eat way, way, WAY too much sugar on a day-to-day basis and it is definitely the leading cause of obesity, imo.
#2 - Overconsumption of carbohydrates. For so long, we were told that carbs were supposed to be the base of the pyramid of our daily eating. This led to people eating 50%+ of their daily calories from carbs, but not exercising nearly enough to burn it off. This, coupled with the consumption of carbs being those that lack nutrition (re: processed carbs, like white bread and white rice), and we have a nation that's eating way too much sugar, ingesting way too many carbs, and not getting enough nutrients.
I was a very large (pun intended) advocate for keto/low carb for a long time, but I've switched to a balanced, sensible diet with 40/30/30 protein/fat/carb ratio, but keeping my sugar to less than 30g/day, and it's great. I focus mostly on the calories and protein intake, but I do pay attention to carb and fat intake also. I try to get at least 4-5 servings of vegetables a day. This is working well for me, and it is easily adaptable when eating out and such.
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:45 pm to upgrayedd
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Any online guides you can point me to? I know you mentioned Reddit, but that site gives me a headache.
Sorry, I mainly used the keto subreddit as my goto place to ask questions, read articles etc. The FAQ is very informative.
I use a reddit app on my phone and the interface is a lot less headache worthy.
there are a lot of people on the F&D board who are/were on a keto diet. They may be able to point you towards another resource.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:46 pm to Hulkklogan
Hang in there Big fella. I bet you look good playing the bass in a speedo.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:47 pm to LCA131
Not yet, but I will get there
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:54 pm to Hulkklogan
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Overconsumption of carbohydrates.
Yes, but there's really no difference. Your body basically perceives all complex carbs as sugar.
I'll be the average person who thinks they eat OK is still pumping in at least 175g of carbs/sugar per day. With some simple adjustments, they can lower that to 75g or less. I don't really advocate full keto, but I do advocate people being more mindful.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:55 pm to SirSaintly
How are beans looked at now? I know they are verboten during early stages of low carb but aren't they low fat, some protein, and complex carbs...and fiber? and I mean like pintos, black eyed peas, white beans etc.
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