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re: How The Sugar Industry Shifted The Blame To Fat

Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

currently sitting around 55-60g of carbs a day


where are you getting your carbs from?

Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27784 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

I am not a crazy conspiracy person, but I do think sugar is the true culprit in most cases and not fat.



There are several Vegan documentaries that will say the exact same about the meat and dairy industry.

I feel not eating like an 'Merican is key.

Balance and portions are key.

Keto diets are great for losing quick weight and moving numbers like that, but how sustainable is it as a lifestyle?

Understanding that meat is a luxury and should not be a staple for humans is key IMHO.

I've done keto diets and I've gone full Vegan for a while. The key I took away is just portion control and making carbs and veggies more than the main dish. Which in america is a huge portion of meat covered in dairy.

Key is balance and not eating shite! If your food is coming out of a cellophane wrapper, its probably not good for you.

Keto has experts and Vegans has experts? Gotta find balance.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43449 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:58 pm to
Wheat toast and some peanuts
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:59 pm to
Paleo>>>Keto>>>Vegan
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7915 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Keto has experts and Vegans has experts? Gotta find balance.


Ive lost 110 pounds in less than a year. No special diets I eat as much as I want I just follow a couple rules

Meats, Vegetables, and fruits only on a 40,40,20 ratio.

Vegetables have to be something that can be eaten raw, so no beans, corn, peas, potatoes etc.

thats it. very easy to maintain.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:02 pm to
no fruit?
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61998 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Interesting NY Times Article that goes into how the sugar industry paid off Harvard researchers to blame fat instead of sugar.



You ought to read up on Archer Daniels Midland and how High Fructose Corn syrup is in about every product now. Richard Manning has a good book Against the Grain.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43449 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:03 pm to
I take a multivitamin. I have a terrible sweet tooth so im trying to eliminate most if not all sugar.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9224 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Keto diets are great for losing quick weight and moving numbers like that, but how sustainable is it as a lifestyle?


This is my beef with Keto. Too many people confuse losing weight with being healthy. It's a necessary first step, but not an end goal.

I was part of a performance study on keto and other diets and there are some legit long-term concerns (for some).

1.) Gut Health - You've got to really work to provide enough food for a healthy gut flora. It's possible, but the "meat & eggs" and minimal veggie Keto dudes will jack their guts up over time.

2.) Sleep Quality - We saw a decent number of complaints over sleep quality. It's almost undeniable that evening carbs help downregulate and start the cascade of serotonin to help ease into sleep.

3.) Testosterone & Hormones - If you are an active dude, there's some legit concern that too few carbs can really impact your T levels. Also looks like there's a thyroid risk for women.

I did Keto for a while and it was practically a Nootropic for me. I was noticeably sharper at work. However, I noticed some gut issues and some performance issues in sprint/intense training.

I've settled on around 125g of daily carbs, all coming after 2pm. Works best for me.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173678 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:08 pm to
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6 million pounds of sugar per day for 360M americans!

And that's just refined table sugar
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:09 pm to
Here you go....still get your carbs from fruits with low sugar

Fruit (Raw) (3 oz)Sugar Total (g) Calorie Total
Strawberries 4.27g 27cal
Papaya 5g 33cal
Watermelon 5.3g 26cal
Grapefruit 5.9g 27cal
Cantaloupe 6.7g 29cal
Nectarines 6.7g 37cal
Peaches 7.1g 33cal
Kiwis 7.6g 52cal
Guavas 7.6g 58cal
Apricots 7.9g 41cal
Oranges 8g 40cal
Pears 8.3g 49cal
Plums 8.4g 39cal
Pineapple 8.4g 43cal
Blueberries 8.5g 48cal
Apples 8.8g 44cal
Tangerines 9g 45cal
Bananas 10.4g 76cal
Cherries 10.9g 54cal
Pomegranates 11.6g 71cal
Mangoes 12.6g 55cal
Grapes 13.2g 59cal
Figs 13.8g 63cal
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2753 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:16 pm to
Some good topics being discussed but I will try to stay closer to the OP and say that sugar is a big (biggest?) reason for our country's health epidemic. Further, I think that the sugar industry is deflecting the negative impacts of sugar (in quantities being consumed) and that could be considered morally wrong.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43449 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:16 pm to
Thanks a ton!
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:18 pm to


A good comprehensive read for those interested

Edit for formatting (much too large, like our populace...)

This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 1:23 pm
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:19 pm to
How many calories per day? That is a lot more important than how many carbs.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:20 pm to
do you think you can blow it up a little more? I can barley read it
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43449 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:21 pm to
Im trying to make my macros fit into a 2k caloric goal. I know from my heart rate monitor I burn as high as 800 cal when I do Plyometrics. Im not sure how much I burn when I lift but I dont take much time in between sets so I can keep the heart pumping.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9224 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:21 pm to
That is a fantastic book.
Posted by mastersleestak
Foul's Creche
Member since Dec 2014
426 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:28 pm to
Are these the same scientists that we trust today for their Climate Change findings?
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2753 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:30 pm to
I try to avoid talking about diet/exercise IRL because that can be annoying to hear (so I'll do it here to get it out of my system).

I try to eat in moderation most of the time but also enjoy over-eating, 'bad' foods, and drinking alcohol 1-2x/week. I also enjoy many different forms of exercise, some intense.

I feel fortunate that my 30s were during the information age of being able to google any question or stumbling across useful articles. Something as simple as intermittent fasting can be a huge benefit to health. I've never done a formal 'diet' but have incorporated things such as IF to supplement overall health.
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