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re: How much were you charged to get tubes in you child’s ears?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:19 pm to Golfer
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:19 pm to Golfer
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Gave them the procedure info and my insurance info and still got a “well, it depends”.
I kind of understand for anesthesiologists since it depends on what you'll use to stay out, but it's still a good example. I've gone through one million dollar plus (billed, not reimbursed, but still) set of medical issues, and ever since then I've tried to take a more hands on approach to shopping health care.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:21 pm to Emteein
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This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:22 pm to Emteein
Its all BS...medical billing is 100% BS.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:22 pm to slackster
Yeah. I understand the charges will vary. But there’s some historical knowledge to billing that can be applied to provide a range assuming normal circumstances. All I wanted.
Friend of mine does healthcare consulting and said your mind would be blown with how absent physicians who own a group practice are in any forecasting, budgeting, etc.
As long as they’re getting paid. They don’t care.
Friend of mine does healthcare consulting and said your mind would be blown with how absent physicians who own a group practice are in any forecasting, budgeting, etc.
As long as they’re getting paid. They don’t care.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:25 pm to Emteein
With insurance it was manageable, and we have an HSA that is pretty stacked.
What really pissed me off was all the different invoices for different shite we got after. Like damn how many people were involved in this shite, we weren't there that long!
We would get it in the mail and I'd think to myself "oh we've already paid that" then I'll open it and look at it and notice it's something different they're billing for
What really pissed me off was all the different invoices for different shite we got after. Like damn how many people were involved in this shite, we weren't there that long!
We would get it in the mail and I'd think to myself "oh we've already paid that" then I'll open it and look at it and notice it's something different they're billing for
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:25 pm to cubsfan5150
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You have aids?
Aids would have been preferable.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:27 pm to Emteein
Why do they get tubes in their ears?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:27 pm to slackster
Bout tree fiddy
Just had to pay the doctor and the anesthesiologist. Copay They performed it at a hospital that writes off all their facility fees for ordained ministers. Made my life easier
Just had to pay the doctor and the anesthesiologist. Copay They performed it at a hospital that writes off all their facility fees for ordained ministers. Made my life easier
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:29 pm to Emteein
Mine was about four years ago and I think I was about $750 out of pocket.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:29 pm to castorinho
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What really pissed me off was all the different invoices for different shite we got after. Like damn how many people were involved in this shite, we weren't there that long!
We would get it in the mail and I'd think to myself "oh we've already paid that" then I'll open it and look at it and notice it's something different they're billing for
Tell me about it. My wife and I each had separate family insurance at the time, but we worked for the same company with the same health plan. Her insurance was primary and mine was secondary. Talk about a shite show. You'd think BCBS could just pull the EOB from her policy and apply it to mine, but noooo, I had to manually submit every damn claim for secondary coverage. It was infuriating.
It's not surprising, at all, that people have unpaid medical debt all the time. It's absurd to keep up sometimes.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:30 pm to Emteein
My advice is to return the product and ask for a refund.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:33 pm to Golfer
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We have a HDHP and anything I know will be costly I try and get the price ahead of time. Some places are excellent at this. Some think this is some insane request.
This is why I think HDHP’s are great for society as a whole and should be incentivized.
I have a HDHP as well and it definitely makes me question prescription drug prices. The more people push to understand the costs, the more the healthcare industry will have to act like every other 21st century business.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:33 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Why do they get tubes in their ears?
For that warm vintage sound.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:38 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Why do they get tubes in their ears
The Eustachian tube in the middle ear in children lays horizontal and is prone to ear infections. The tubes incline it to help with drainage, causing less infections.
Both of my kids had to have them due to constant ear infections... one of my sons ears had almost total hearing loss before the tubes. Don’t know if it is the same way now, but 15 years ago they had to have a certain amount of infections for it to be chronic before they’d ok the surgery. That bullshite rule caused a lot of sleepless nights.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:41 pm to Emteein
And people wonder why the heath care situation in this country is so screwed up.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:44 pm to lostinbr
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This is why I think HDHP’s are great for society as a whole and should be incentivized.
I have a HDHP as well and it definitely makes me question prescription drug prices. The more people push to understand the costs, the more the healthcare industry will have to act like every other 21st century business.
The reason we switched was because our specalist and urgent care co-pays were higher than their typical cash rates.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:45 pm to Emteein
OP and everyone else in this thread: Too bad you all have jobs and actually work for a living. If you had Medicaid or "Free Care," you could've gotten the procedure for free (to you). No stress. No bills. No nothing.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:53 pm to AutoYes_Clown
No doctor makes more empty promises based on elective surgical procedures than ENTs. They are almost always opting for a surgery first approach. So yeah....they make good money
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:02 pm to Emteein
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Let’s say one cylinder of gas $500
Anesthesiologists and ENT were present for our procedure less than an hour, actually less than half hour. 2 nurses also. Let’s say you pay them each $1000/ hr. We still ain’t even approaching $15,0000. They make a tiny incision and place a little plastic bushing in his ear drum and then give him some drops. Where is all the money going?
Surgeon fee, anesthesiologist fee
Facility overhead:
- rent, OR room time, scrub tech salary, circulating nurse salary (sometimes two in a room), pre-op/pacu nurses salary, ancillary staff salary to clean/turnover rooms between cases.
Equipment: including cost of medical grade equipment (a racket), sterilizing and costs of disposables
Of course ear tubes may be huge money maker for the facility, tempered by surgeries that don't quite make the same profit.
On and on and on. Pretty much every facility has a cost of Operating room time per x mins.
Also doesn't help that if you have 3 different contracted rates, they charge the highest rate that will cover all 3.
It's sad there's a lack of cost transparency in medicine. There's so many nuances and layers with billing, documentation, and insurance that no wonder you see a shift towards concierge in some specialities.
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