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re: How many kids wish they lose in travel ball and tournaments?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:49 am to ConfusedHawgInMO
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:49 am to ConfusedHawgInMO
quote:i played travel soccer until i had a leg injury that made me sit out and i finally realized "man , this shite is gay, i want to shoot shite and catch fish" and i switched to football and stuck with basketball
My kid says the year he broke his arm and couldn't play ball was the best summer of his childhood.
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:02 am to Byrdybyrd05
This weekend, mother's day weekend, my nephew had a travel ball tournament. They have been playing in one for the past 6 weeks.
They play two games on Saturday and guaranteed to play at least one on Sundays. Sunday is one and done.
This past weekend they had 4 teams in the tournament so it was double elimination. They played two games Saturday, on Sunday won the first game, lost the second so they played in an elimination game. They lost, but they had been there since 8:30AM and finished playing just after 6:30PM. If they would have won, they would have not finished until around 9PM.
I see why these kids get burnt out playing baseball by the time they are in HS. They have friends who will ask them to go to the beach with their family.. And they can't because they have a tournament. And since it cost the parents $1k+ for the kid to play they don't want the kid to skip a weekend (well thats the majority, this past weekend on Saturday they only had 8 players because 2 of them was playing in a rec ball all stars and another was in cub scout soap box car derby).
Most of those kids are out there because their parents want them out there. My nephew included.
Most coaches would suggest the kid play multiple sports.
It seems like most of these travel ball dads were average at best in HS so they are trying to make their kids do what they felt like they needed in order to be better when the fact is, they could have all the reps in the world, but their physical ability would have limited them to be an average at best, HS player. And now, they want their kids to play as much as possible to the point when their kids get to HS they are tired of it because since they were 8 years old they haven't been able to do the things they wish they could have been doing.
They play two games on Saturday and guaranteed to play at least one on Sundays. Sunday is one and done.
This past weekend they had 4 teams in the tournament so it was double elimination. They played two games Saturday, on Sunday won the first game, lost the second so they played in an elimination game. They lost, but they had been there since 8:30AM and finished playing just after 6:30PM. If they would have won, they would have not finished until around 9PM.
I see why these kids get burnt out playing baseball by the time they are in HS. They have friends who will ask them to go to the beach with their family.. And they can't because they have a tournament. And since it cost the parents $1k+ for the kid to play they don't want the kid to skip a weekend (well thats the majority, this past weekend on Saturday they only had 8 players because 2 of them was playing in a rec ball all stars and another was in cub scout soap box car derby).
Most of those kids are out there because their parents want them out there. My nephew included.
Most coaches would suggest the kid play multiple sports.
It seems like most of these travel ball dads were average at best in HS so they are trying to make their kids do what they felt like they needed in order to be better when the fact is, they could have all the reps in the world, but their physical ability would have limited them to be an average at best, HS player. And now, they want their kids to play as much as possible to the point when their kids get to HS they are tired of it because since they were 8 years old they haven't been able to do the things they wish they could have been doing.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:25 am to OweO
Its the amount of games and tournaments the dumbass coaches put the teams in. My daughter is in travel cheer, and she loves it. But she was starting to get burned out, and she celebrates her Tuesdays because its "I don't have anything day". Which I've already talked to my wife about it being a sign.
The problem is my daughter likes the tough competition and if she doesn't do that, the other option is be on a crappy team or a team that won't compete to win ever.
Travel sports don't have it bad compared to dance and cheer, its fricking BS. They "compete" for 4 mins and are done for the day, once a day. Last weekend we had a competition time at 3pm on sat and sunday was 8:30am but then EVERYONE and EVERY team has to be there for awards which were at 2:30. So my entire fricking Sunday was burned for a 4 min competition at 8:30am.
I think the extended practice season makes sense with 1-3 weekend tournaments. One or 2 close, and one "travel". Beyond that, and yes everyone gets burned out.
The problem is you go from rec league to the travel season, there's really not much in between.
The problem is my daughter likes the tough competition and if she doesn't do that, the other option is be on a crappy team or a team that won't compete to win ever.
Travel sports don't have it bad compared to dance and cheer, its fricking BS. They "compete" for 4 mins and are done for the day, once a day. Last weekend we had a competition time at 3pm on sat and sunday was 8:30am but then EVERYONE and EVERY team has to be there for awards which were at 2:30. So my entire fricking Sunday was burned for a 4 min competition at 8:30am.
I think the extended practice season makes sense with 1-3 weekend tournaments. One or 2 close, and one "travel". Beyond that, and yes everyone gets burned out.
The problem is you go from rec league to the travel season, there's really not much in between.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 8:27 am
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:28 am to OweO
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Most of those kids are out there because their parents want them out there. My nephew included.
Most coaches would suggest the kid play multiple sports.
Disagree with this. In order to actually win, you need almost the entire team "all in". Or you need multiple absolute studs which is just luck.
Most of the travel coaches absolutely want players all in on their team and their sport. Many of them on the better teams, absolutely try and cherry pick the better players from other teams also.
ETA: People act like this is new, its not. I moved my junior year of HS and used to play football and soccer. Our football coach/ AD wouldn't allow us to play 2 sports at one time. So I couldn't even try out for the soccer team that was a winter sport and overlapped mayby 2-3 weeks of the football season. So I couldn't make the team. Now I wasn't an all-state player but I was starter level, being new the coach couldn't hold a spot for me since I couldn't try out.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 8:31 am
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:32 am to Byrdybyrd05
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For the kids and parents who hate travel ball, is there not a league they can play locally?
There is rec ball but travel ball has watered down rec ball.
School ball starts in 4th grade now. It seems like most kids who play travel ball play school ball. The team my nephew plays for is made up of kids from two different schools. Not every kid who plays school ball plays travel ball so the popular thing seems to be merging two school ball teams together.
And most teams seem to have no more than 11 kids on each team. And of course since they all pay the same amount of money for their kids to be on the team, every game there are two groups of parents who are not happy.
And I see why some of these kids blow out their arm before they even get to HS. When I went a few weeks ago I watched a kid, who evidently played catcher the first game, pitch the whole second game. By the 3rd inning that kid's arm was hurting him, but evidently the coach told him he needed him to play the whole game because he needed his pitchers for Sunday since Sunday is when it counts.
The best kid on their team is this black kid. He is the shortest kid on the team. His dad is there and while all the coaches act like asses when a kid makes a mistake, if this kid makes a mistake his dad calls and makes sure he sees him first. He tells his kid its okay. He can only control what happens next and that kid plays with the most confidence on the team. He also plays other sports so he isn't consumed with just baseball.
You can tell what kids play with a lot of pressure on them and that's sad to see. Travel ball is nothing more than a money grab.
The team my nephew plays on cost $1k, there is a team in his age group in which it cost $2k to play. That money is for uniforms and to pay entry fees for tournaments. It seems like most of these tournaments are played on city or parish ran facilities, but its a $10 entry fee and concessions are not cheap. I rambled on but to answer your question, there is rec ball but that isn't as popular. School ball starts in 4th grade and then travel ball.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:33 am to Byrdybyrd05
I never played travel ball but played two years of summer rec baseball and it was miserable. Started basically when school let out and didn't finish until the next school year started. Never had a summer with practices and games.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:34 am to baldona
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Its the amount of games and tournaments the dumbass coaches put the teams in
I would have killed for that back in the day. 20 games per summer was just not enough.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:34 am to PrecedentedTimes
quote:Mission failed.
I had just gotten a new video game and didn’t want to waste a weekend being a nerd
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:44 am to Tigersonfire
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If this is ANY parents ultimate goal in any sport let me lend some words of advice. Take the $2-3000 a year spent on equipment, coaches, traveling, meals, uniforms and invest it for 18 years and there’s your scholarship. Don’t make your kid play sports if getting a scholarship is the end goal. Because your kid isn’t getting a scholarship 99.9% of the time. Then on top of that you end up making the kid hate the sport because you’ve turned it into a job.
Not quite, for one you don't start at birth so lets say they start around the first year of kid pitch which is 9 in most places. You're looking at 27k which is a year at most state colleges. I'm all for it but in moderation because the most important thing with kids is balance. You don't want a kid thinking all he's good at is baseball and once that doesn't work out he's a nut job mentally. My son's 13 and plays with a group who are all graded 7.5 or higher via perfect game and will all play college ball somehwere one day and we don't "grind" nearly as hard as some of the teams with no future. It's make the kids want to be there when they're not obligated to be there every weekend. Just my .02
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:46 am to Tigersonfire
Travel baseball or any competitive sport when done correctly by coaches and parents teaches valuable lessons that go far beyond the playing field.
My son is very talented but I'm under no delusion that he will be a D1 player and I don't care if he does or not. Baseball is a great place for him to learn how to deal with adversity, maintain a positive attitude, care about others regardless of how he's performing In a game and working hard. Baseball will never be an easy game and it will never be fair and that's a great teaching ground for him.
My son is very talented but I'm under no delusion that he will be a D1 player and I don't care if he does or not. Baseball is a great place for him to learn how to deal with adversity, maintain a positive attitude, care about others regardless of how he's performing In a game and working hard. Baseball will never be an easy game and it will never be fair and that's a great teaching ground for him.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:48 am to cheobode
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but played two years of summer rec baseball and it was miserable.
We spent every waking minute we could on the baseball field, I can't ever imagine it being miserable.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:51 am to Globetrotter747
Know a couple whose kids play in a local league. They had a tournament that started at 7:00am on a Saturday. Each team had to play 3-5 games minimum. I can't remember which. That's assuming that they never won a game. If they would have won a game, they would be playing on Sunday too. The parents were so happy that their kid's team didn't win a game.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:52 am to baldona
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Travel sports don't have it bad compared to dance and cheer, its fricking BS. They "compete" for 4 mins and are done for the day, once a day. Last weekend we had a competition time at 3pm on sat and sunday was 8:30am but then EVERYONE and EVERY team has to be there for awards which were at 2:30. So my entire fricking Sunday was burned for a 4 min competition at 8:30am.
Yeah this sounds awful. After a 4 min routine at 8:30AM you have to wait 6 hours for the results. Are they at least allowed to leave, go eat, go do other things then go back before 2:30?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:55 am to Tiger Ryno
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no delusion that he will be a D1 player
There are a ton of D1 programs.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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We spent every waking minute we could on the baseball field, I can't ever imagine it being miserable.
What is this? The Sandlot?
It was miserable because I didn't have a summer. From ages 12-14, it was nothing but practice, games, tournaments, etc. Couldn't go camping, vacations, hang out with friends/cousins.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 9:00 am to cheobode
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It was miserable because I didn't have a summer.
Baseball was summer, summer was baseball.
Somehow we still found time to do all the other summer things on off days, or before games..
We went on a vacation once for two weeks, I missed 4 games, two of them pitching starts. I was heartbroken.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 9:03 am
Posted on 5/10/22 at 9:02 am to Gaston
Travel ball sounds miserable, my nephew was in AAU basketball, he loved it.
Anything that gets kids away from those f*cking video games can't be all bad.
Anything that gets kids away from those f*cking video games can't be all bad.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 9:03 am to Tigersonfire
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Don’t make your kid play sports if getting a scholarship is the end goal. Because your kid isn’t getting a scholarship 99.9% of the time. Then on top of that you end up making the kid hate the sport because you’ve turned it into a job.
The parents that believe that will NEVER understand that.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 9:05 am to CougarBait
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Sounds like some of you just want to make excuses because your son is a pussy and can’t make a travel ball team. Probably grows up to play with balls just not the kind that earn him championship rings.
I think we found Braydennn's Dad who had a custom shadow box built for all of his "World Series" rings.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 9:09 am to Byrdybyrd05
Nobody here would ever admit it. They'd swear their future MLB star really wanted to get up at 5am to take BP, head to baseball class after school, practice 5 nights per week (often until 10pm), and spend entire weekends away from home playing in "tournaments."
Many of these kids wouldn't get any attention from their dads if they didn't feign interest. I've seen it many many times among my kids' peers. Get them away from it, and you'll hear the kids say it. They'd rather play video games, go camping, go to the lake, go to Disney, whatever...
I miss rec ball that took a small section of time. I miss kids playing many different sports. I miss kids being kids without personal trainers and coaches.
Many of these kids wouldn't get any attention from their dads if they didn't feign interest. I've seen it many many times among my kids' peers. Get them away from it, and you'll hear the kids say it. They'd rather play video games, go camping, go to the lake, go to Disney, whatever...
I miss rec ball that took a small section of time. I miss kids playing many different sports. I miss kids being kids without personal trainers and coaches.
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