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re: How far do you think we are from a major worker’s revolution in America?
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:41 am to LSURussian
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:41 am to LSURussian
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Inflation has been almost non-existent in the U.S. for over a decade.
The way we measure it, but if we actually measured inflation it would be tied to the CPI...but it ain't.
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:41 am to 50_Tiger
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This is such a fallacy I don't even know where to begin. Let's just ask a few questions:
Did Americans need supplemental income when technology switched from steam to electric? Or when we made the switch from electric cathode ray tubes to the transistor?
No, but we've never dealt with artificial intelligence before. There was always a need for a human operator at some level.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:41 am to TDcline
Again, I’ll get back to automation being a huge force the next 15 years or so.
I started a thread on the subject when I was still unsure but in my previous position, I did speak with one of the higher up technology directors and he confirmed that they were planning on being able to eliminate our entire floor of some 300 people when they can. Those jobs were highly specialized too. And if that company was doing that, all it’s competitors will be working on the same issue as well. And eventually, it will be a matter of time before smaller firms follow suit. That’s 10-15k highly trained mid to senior career workers who are all going to hit the streeets unemployed within relatively the same time area. That’s chaos
I started a thread on the subject when I was still unsure but in my previous position, I did speak with one of the higher up technology directors and he confirmed that they were planning on being able to eliminate our entire floor of some 300 people when they can. Those jobs were highly specialized too. And if that company was doing that, all it’s competitors will be working on the same issue as well. And eventually, it will be a matter of time before smaller firms follow suit. That’s 10-15k highly trained mid to senior career workers who are all going to hit the streeets unemployed within relatively the same time area. That’s chaos
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:41 am to Ross
Instead of getting a MBA after you've earned your business degree, go to trade school and become an apprentice (plumber, welder, builder, whatever). Combine those and build a business. There is a skills gap in the country. Try building a custom home and you'll find out. If I could do it over, this is where I would go, American College of the Building Arts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:44 am to 225bred
quote:the issue of low skilled wages being depressed is so much more complex than "they terk our jerbs!"
build the wall.. stop importing low skilled workers.. and watch wages go up.
to think, "we'll just kick them out and wages will magically go up" is a fantasy
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:45 am to upgrayedd
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Trade school injection into HS curriculum is a must. Not everyone is best suited to go to college.
Believe it or not, Louisiana is already doing this. It's called the jumpstart program. Students can opt out of the traditional college track in their Junior year and begin work skills training for high school credit. The plan needs to be expanded though.
We can start the jumpstart track freshman year and have senior year be an apprenticeship. Also, we can expand the program down to the middle schools. Student can be identified early and begin taking financial style math and business English instead of the traditional curriculum. Of course, we would have to get rid of standardized testing.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:46 am to 50_Tiger
quote:imagine a future where AI is so advanced that we use computers to diagnose and treat illnesses, control all aspects of transportation, or think about feeding the facts of a criminal case to an AI and having it adjudicate a trial
This is such a fallacy I don't even know where to begin. Let's just ask a few questions: Did Americans need supplemental income when technology switched from steam to electric? Or when we made the switch from electric cathode ray tubes to the transistor?
We are on the edges of some mind blowing technological advancements the likes of which humanity hasn't seen yet
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 9:47 am
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:47 am to Pilot Tiger
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imagine a future where AI is so advanced that we use computers to diagnose and treat illnesses, control all aspects of transportation, or think about feeding the facts of a criminal case to an AI and having it adjudicate.
Other industries will always rise. Just because you cannot see them now does not mean they won't exist.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:49 am to 50_Tiger
quote:yes as they've always done, I'm not disputing that.
Other industries will always rise
quote:What I'm saying is that AI will be a game changer and while humans will be needed to fill gaps in new and emerging industries, we've never had AI like we will have.
Just because you cannot see them now does not mean they won't exist.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:49 am to LSURussian
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Inflation has been almost non-existent in the U.S. for over a decade.
Price of Schools, Healthcare and Real Estate have all been going up. Price of a lot of things have been going up. Government calculation shows little inflation but it doesn't mean the price of key items hasn't gone up.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:50 am to TDcline
End the Fed and we fix all of these problems
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:51 am to 50_Tiger
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Other industries will always rise. Just because you cannot see them now does not mean they won't exist.
We're talking about a world where we have literally created a smarter, more capable, and less mistake prone alternative to the average American person. I'm not sure you could create an industry where the more expensive and less effective alternative is a more efficient option.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:53 am to 225bred
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Kick out the fricking illegals and build the wall.. stop importing low skilled workers.. and watch wages go up.
It's not rocket science.
You don't even need a wall. Just put a law in that any company employing an illegal is fined 10k a day per illegal. The government will crack down because it's revenue source, and companies won't pay 10k per worker.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:53 am to Teufelhunden
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Instead of getting a MBA after you've earned your business degree, go to trade school and become an apprentice (plumber, welder, builder, whatever). Combine those and build a business. There is a skills gap in the country. Try building a custom home and you'll find out. If I could do it over, this is where I would go, American College of the Building Arts
Bingo, in demand occupations have not had stagnant wages.
People need to wake up and realize you are paid according to your replacement cost, if you have a skill set that is in demand you will be well paid with frequent raises, if there are 2 million grads per year with the same skills then you are easily replaceable and will be compensated on that basis.
This is why an Aluminum welder with only 6 months trade school education makes more than most BS degrees, the welder will more likely have a much better benefit package and job security as well as they chose an in demand occupation.
As this started with teachers let me state on record they are grossly overpaid and a reckoning is on the horizon.
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 9:54 am
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:53 am to Crowknowsbest
and people forget that while the Industrial Revolution and other times of advancement ended up creating new industries and jobs...it took a long time. In the meantime there was a lot of instability and suffering
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:54 am to Pilot Tiger
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What I'm saying is that AI will be a game changer and while humans will be needed to fill gaps in new and emerging industries, we've never had AI like we will have.
You can make an argument that outcome won't matter once we reach a point where a robot/AI can do everything.
But if we reach that point, what's stopping robots/AI from seeing us as parasites and eradicating us? Because that's logically what a higher level organism would do.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:54 am to Pilot Tiger
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the issue of low skilled wages being depressed is so much more complex than "they terk our jerbs!"
to think, "we'll just kick them out and wages will magically go up" is a fantasy
Most jobs that pay a salary above median income do not employ illegals.
We actually need to do the exact opposite of deporting all illegals.
Having a low cost labor pool will bring american manufacturing back allowing the higher educated to supervise/manage those on the lower rungs
We also need to make it less expensive for companies to hire. Payroll tax cuts and lower healthcare costs would be a boon for the economy
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:54 am to Jcorye1
quote:I wonder why such a common sense solution hasn't been implemented?
You don't even need a wall. Just put a law in that any company employing an illegal is fined 10k a day per illegal. The government will crack down because it's revenue source, and companies won't pay 10k per worker.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:55 am to TDcline
Good grief, 60% of taxpayers (making less than $86K) already pay no net federal taxes.
As an aside,teachers work less than 8 months out of the year. They are well-compensated.
Nothing in your post is correct, but good troll.
As an aside,teachers work less than 8 months out of the year. They are well-compensated.
Nothing in your post is correct, but good troll.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:55 am to Jcorye1
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You don't even need a wall. Just put a law in that any company employing an illegal is fined 10k a day per illegal. The government will crack down because it's revenue source, and companies won't pay 10k per worker.
All that'll happen is those manufacturers will relocate outside of the country. You'll also see massive increases in food prices.
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