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re: How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:58 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:58 pm to Korkstand
To those debating stability and instability and promoting insane asylums:
You’re missing the bigger picture.
Were the Columbine killers unstable or were they merely acting consistently with their beliefs? If the latter, we’ve got a human problem that our society is only feeding, while it stigmatizes the solution.
You’re missing the bigger picture.
Were the Columbine killers unstable or were they merely acting consistently with their beliefs? If the latter, we’ve got a human problem that our society is only feeding, while it stigmatizes the solution.
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:59 pm to LNCHBOX
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so stupid fricking rednecks can pretend they're tough.
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Come try and take my guns
You’re proving his point. You’re too stupid to understand but I thought I’d be nice and point it out to you
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:59 pm to 007mag
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Public execution, gruesome, painful stuff where a close casket burial is required after.
That just makes them even bigger martyrs. That's not going to work.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:59 pm to stout
Is that supposed to be a gotcha or something? It has very little to do with my point.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:00 pm to bayoubengals88
You can't stop it. It's like trying to ban all kids drowning in a pools. As long as we have pools there will be drownings. You can't always anticipate when someone will suffer a mental break.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:01 pm to Slagathor
quote:Eh…their National Firearm Act was passed in only 12 days.
voting there is compulsory, so one could argue their laws more closely reflect their values (whether or not we agree with them)
It was simply a response by their politicians, not civilian voting.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:01 pm to The Spleen
No gotcha but pointing out that, just like anything else in our society, banning something doesn't mean criminals will stop doing it and that fact is especially amplified when you have a weak arse admin like Obama or Biden that allow our border to remain a free market for criminals to operate through.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:02 pm to Tigerfan56
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You’re proving his point. You’re too stupid to understand but I thought I’d be nice and point it out to you
I have owned guns for 45 years. I've had breakups, neighbor disputes, fights, road rage encounters etc. Some of them serious enough that a gun might have been necessary. I have yet to shoot a single person, like the vast majority of gun owners.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:03 pm to stout
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Yea this sounds like a solid idea and will absolutely have no way of dragging in innocent people.
If you don’t pay attention to your shitbag sociopath kid and fail to get them help/committed, you aren’t innocent imo.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:03 pm to Tiger1242
Make death illegal. Make everyone dead zombies. My fee fees.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:04 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
quote:Again, why are we insisting that such an evil and violent act is the result of a mental break?
You can't always anticipate when someone will suffer a mental break.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:04 pm to cable
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I have owned guns for 45 years. I've had breakups, neighbor disputes, fights, road rage encounters etc. Some of them serious enough that a gun might have been necessary. I have yet to shoot a single person, like the vast majority of gun owners.
Uh, okay?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:06 pm to Scruffy
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It was simply a response by their politicians, not civilian voting.
so compulsory voting has no greater effect on policy outcomes than our ~60% turnout?
ok.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:06 pm to ghost2most
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Get caught with an unregistered gun and you get a life fricking sentence.
Good luck with that alot of criminals shoot and kill people and end up back on the street in short order
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:06 pm to Tiger1242
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How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?
Stop creating soft target zones. Gun free zones kill people.
Hold people who create gun free zones accountable for not taking steps to guarantee that is the case.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:08 pm to Tiger1242
Stop giving mass shooters attention.
The guy in Buffalo was must mimicking the NZ dude.
The guy in Buffalo was must mimicking the NZ dude.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:08 pm to Crowknowsbest
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If you don’t pay attention to your shitbag sociopath kid and fail to get them help/committed, you aren’t innocent imo.
The one positive from your stupid law is the ghettos would be empty because all of them would be in jail over what their kids did
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:08 pm to Tigerfan56
quote:
Uh, okay?
The vast majority of gun owners view them as a last line of defense or a hunting tool. If I'm not mistaken, a lot of the people that do these shootings get their guns from family members that don't secure them properly. Pay attention to your kids and lock up your weapons - or at least hide them and control access.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:08 pm to bayoubengals88
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To those debating stability and instability and promoting insane asylums:
You’re missing the bigger picture.
Were the Columbine killers unstable or were they merely acting consistently with their beliefs? If the latter, we’ve got a human problem that our society is only feeding, while it stigmatizes the solution.
Its both a mental health issue and a "society" issue. They aren't mutually exclusive or inclusive.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:08 pm to Cosmo
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Who gets to decide who is unstable?
I mean, for better or worse, the same people who have decided what constitutes a criminal act would do that. Since the 1950's we (the state) have closed hundreds of mental institutions/insane asylums will adding tens of thousands of prison beds to the point we are outsourcing that practice to private companies.
Why is one so readily accepted over the other? I agree with your premise though, it is a very dark subject and was a slippery slope for generations before the practice of institutionalizing mentally ill people was practically ended.
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