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re: How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:28 pm to Slagathor
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:28 pm to Slagathor
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We could do similarly (but opposite) here in the US, but we're far more apathetic until we get a keyboard in front of us.
America was founded on guns. Australia was founded by guns being pointed at them. Big difference.
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:28 pm to stout
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Do you mean the same people locking people up for January 6th but letting criminals that were caught red-handed committing actual crimes out on low bail or off 100% free?
I get it, and from a political perspective, I happen to agree with you. But when it comes to mental health, politics need not and should not be involved. Of course, there is no chance in hell of that happening, on either side of the aisle.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:28 pm to Tiger1242
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How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?
Summary execution.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:29 pm to Tiger1242
if any plan doesn't begin with Christ, it's pointless
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:30 pm to Basura Blanco
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But when it comes to mental health, politics need not and should not be involved.
The same people that tell us men can get pregnant and that there are 800 different genders and none of that has to do with mental health will now be telling us who is mentally fit under your proposition. How do you think that makes sense.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:31 pm to Tiger1242
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I want to start off by saying I don’t mean what laws and regulations could be put in place
Then it's never going to stop. There's only one country where this happens and there's one thing different here than everywhere else.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:31 pm to Tiger1242
Gun control, it exists in every other developed nation and surprise this doesn’t happen every 3 months. We’ll have to wait for a left learning court to get as strict as I’d like (think UK and Australia) but there are definitely plenty of common sense regulations that can be implemented under Heller. I admit it will take a while for gun control to have an impact in reducing this because we have been giving guns out like candy for decades but doesn’t mean it isn’t worth starting somewheres.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:31 pm to Tiger1242
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How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?
If someone is willing to die while they're committing an atrocity like this, it is awfully hard to stop them.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:34 pm to WDE24
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wow. Act strange and you get a 10 year commitment to a mental hospital? Yeah, I don’t want to live in that authoritarian hell.
I know I didn't word it too well. I really meant anyone who is threatening other people or themselves. This could be on social media, in real life, or wherever. Make violent threats, get carried away to the hospital. I have no problem with this. (Suicidal only patients aren't as important as homicidal patients, though both need commitment).
Also, we need to make it easier for families to get crazy family members committed (like in the old days). I guarantee this shooter was acting crazy around his grandma long before he went on this rampage. Same goes for Buffalo shooter - he was torturing animals and threatening to shoot up the school (and his mother knew it). He should have been committed. Yeah, he got a 72 hour psych hold, but that's not enough.
Such cases as these should result in an automatic LONG stay at the hospital. I am fine with the psychiatrists at the hospital periodically evaluating people for release. A court should get involved if someone is committed unfairly (there should be legal due process for the patient).
Also, if you get involuntarily committed, and it holds up in court, you lose all rights to own firearms forever.
Bottom line: more hospitals, more commitments, less guns for the crazies. Yes, it will cost some money, but if we can send countless billions to Ukraine, we can manage this.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:34 pm to ghost2most
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Every single weapon in this country should be registered.
I refuse to register these hands.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:35 pm to Bronc
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Ask yourself a simple question, what does every other developed nation have in common that the US does not?
Every other country doesn't have the ghetto black culture that is responsible for the vast majority of gun violence in this country.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:35 pm to AUstar
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I really meant anyone who is threatening other people or themselves.
Red flag laws exist and are already being abused by angry spouses and exes much like the whole "Me Too" movement was abused.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:35 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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it's nearly impossible to get someone placed in a facility for extended treatment beyond 48-72 hours.
This. You pretty much have to do something like this evil POS did today to get committed to a state hospital nowadays. State run mental institutions that treat all kinds of mental illness need to be brought back.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:37 pm to OMLandshark
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America was founded on guns. Australia was founded by guns being pointed at them. Big difference.
I'm sure that will get you lots of applause in Walmart
I was comparing their citizen participation to ours but you can't seem to get past the fact that you don't agree with their outcomes, which is fine but not my point.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:37 pm to fr33manator
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That is until the party in power decides that not voting the right way constitutes a mental illness and then their little jackboot thugs break down your door at night and murder you and your family for “resisting” when they come to take your guns now that they’ve made them “illegal” with the stroke of a pen.
Not sure why this was downvoted. The last 10 years or so tells us this is exactly what would happen.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:39 pm to 007mag
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Public execution, gruesome, painful stuff where a close casket burial is required after
Most of these people don't leave the scene alive so I'm not sure how you think this would help
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:40 pm to OMLandshark
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Deep down Aussies are a bunch of prisoners that can't be trusted with their own physical safety and deep down like a warden telling them want to do.
That’s a strange thing to say given the USA had its fair share of indentured servants and slaves as well.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:41 pm to Slagathor
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I'm sure that will get you lots of applause in Walmart
Funny how some of you people always show what they truly think of gun owners. Not everyone is a dumb Walmart redneck and assuming so immediately shows you as the simpleton in the argument.
BTW, Australian citizens immediately regretted their guns being taken from them especially as other crimes rose by leaps and bounds. Rape went up overnight as criminals no longer feared someone being able to defend themselves.
If a vote were held on it today I 100% bet the outcome would be different.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:42 pm to Tiger1242
One common element in these mass shootings is the use of ssri uptake inhibitors like Prozac.
The pharmaceutical industry does a real good job of keeping that fact obscured
The pharmaceutical industry does a real good job of keeping that fact obscured
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:45 pm to Slagathor
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I'm sure that will get you lots of applause in Walmart
you frequent Walmart often?
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