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re: How are murders still unsolved in this day and age?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:02 pm to NoHoTiger
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:02 pm to NoHoTiger
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There is a case from Concordia Parish about a guy that was tortured and killed. Evidence all over the crime scene and their is an obvious suspect but charges weren't filled because of lack of evidence.
I know its a small parish sheriff department but if they can't handle it, wouldn't another department like stare police or FBI step in?
It's frustrating as hell. Wouldn't be surprised if the guy I posted about last week isn't solved. Right across the River in Adams County. Murdered in Wilkinson.
My OT thread about man burned in truck in Illusions Parking Lot.
His/our daughters' class is doing something for her and the mom next week to help bring comfort the family in wake of this 'accident'(what they told the little girl).
. Anyhoots. What details do you have on the Condordia murder you speak of? Believe it or not, the OT is capable of solving murders.
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:03 pm to Agforlife
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Because the murderer kept his damn mouth shut
The only person I know serving life w/o parole ratted himself out while drunk.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:03 pm to jdeval1
I wouldn’t kill every poster. Thats over 100,000 people. Just a handful of so
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:07 pm to Soup Sammich
I guarantee anyone could drive to a distant city you've never been to, and shoot and kill some random person and never ever get caught.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:10 pm to East Coast Band
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I guarantee anyone could drive to a distant city you've never been to, and shoot and kill some random person and never ever get caught.
This is what I think happened to Shelby Holmes. Some Yahoo passing through Baton Rouge, dipped down from the 110 on to Braddock, saw an easy target at night, and continued on to their destination.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:15 pm to East Coast Band
Leave your cell phone at home, don’t drive a car that has fancy electronics, don’t stop for gas, cigs, beer, food , don’t take any toll roads, and don’t get pulled over on the way home.
Wear a mask and gloves at the crime scene.
Burn them at home.
Commit the murder in a way they cant fight back and spill your blood or hair anywhere at the crime screne.
If a gun is used, make sure it is a dirty gun and throw it in a lake as soon as possible including any and all ammunition.
Make sure you have your story straight, and keep it simple so they can’t frick you up during interrogations. Have your lawyer already picked out.
Eta- wear two sets of gloves and a mask over another mask. Ditch the outer layer of concealment at the scene, with victims dna.
Take the inner layer of concealment home with your dna, then destroy.
Eta2- never use the internet to research or plan a murder. They can build an open and shut case on your internet activity alone, with no other evidence.
Wear a mask and gloves at the crime scene.
Burn them at home.
Commit the murder in a way they cant fight back and spill your blood or hair anywhere at the crime screne.
If a gun is used, make sure it is a dirty gun and throw it in a lake as soon as possible including any and all ammunition.
Make sure you have your story straight, and keep it simple so they can’t frick you up during interrogations. Have your lawyer already picked out.
Eta- wear two sets of gloves and a mask over another mask. Ditch the outer layer of concealment at the scene, with victims dna.
Take the inner layer of concealment home with your dna, then destroy.
Eta2- never use the internet to research or plan a murder. They can build an open and shut case on your internet activity alone, with no other evidence.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:16 pm to TheHarahanian
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Because the murderer kept his damn mouth shut
The only person I know serving life w/o parole ratted himself out while drunk.
Now you've got me curious. Did he tell some friends or something?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:17 pm to Walt OReilly
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If I wanted to I could kill anyone on here and get away with it.
Test yourself with some of the arky posters..................
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:21 pm to mikelbr
I would say it's actually surprising how many actually get solved
DNA isn't a magic wand
Ever watch the First 48?
Police arrive at murder scene. Look for physical evidence. Then the officers spread out and ask neighbors and witnesses what they saw. Then pull any surveillance video that might have caught the event.
Blatant clues from first pass sweep, coupled with surveillance footage, coupled with "Neighbor X said she saw Y" or "Neighbor Z said the victim was having arguments with W earlier that day" will usually lead to an individual being brought in for questioning who is either the killer, an accomplice, or person with direct knowledge of who is responsible. If the person brought in is either of the last two options all you have to do is convince them to flip. If it's the killer, all you have to do is get them to confess, or compile enough of an argument for an arrest warrant.
That's it: glaring evidence, surveillance, witness testimony --> use these to find a crop of usual suspects --> bring those people in for questioning and turn up the heat
Honestly if you just randomly killed someone who is a complete stranger to you in a secluded area with no witnesses, you would never be caught
DNA isn't a magic wand
Ever watch the First 48?
Police arrive at murder scene. Look for physical evidence. Then the officers spread out and ask neighbors and witnesses what they saw. Then pull any surveillance video that might have caught the event.
Blatant clues from first pass sweep, coupled with surveillance footage, coupled with "Neighbor X said she saw Y" or "Neighbor Z said the victim was having arguments with W earlier that day" will usually lead to an individual being brought in for questioning who is either the killer, an accomplice, or person with direct knowledge of who is responsible. If the person brought in is either of the last two options all you have to do is convince them to flip. If it's the killer, all you have to do is get them to confess, or compile enough of an argument for an arrest warrant.
That's it: glaring evidence, surveillance, witness testimony --> use these to find a crop of usual suspects --> bring those people in for questioning and turn up the heat
Honestly if you just randomly killed someone who is a complete stranger to you in a secluded area with no witnesses, you would never be caught
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:23 pm to Walt OReilly
quote:i would start with the posters who can't walk
I wouldn’t kill every poster. Thats over 100,000 people. Just a handful of so
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:23 pm to mikelbr
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Anyhoots. What details do you have on the Condordia murder you speak of? Believe it or not, the OT is capable of solving murders.
There was a thread on here a year or two ago when it happened. Duel Moreland was killed. All I know is that they had him strapped around a tree by his neck for awhile. Ended up killed, burnt the body and was in a shallow grave when found. One person was arrested but weren't able to charge him with the murder because of a lack of evidence. Over a year later, the strap with on the tree with the part around his neck was still at the crime scene along with tools, water bottles and other items.
Seems they could test those objects for DNA to see of any other person was at the crime scene.
Maybe they did but this case faded out of view extremely fast being unsolved.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:29 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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would start with the posters who can't walk
You really want him murdered?
And walt is creeping me the frick out he seems like a serial killer as it is, this might be proof
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:33 pm to NoHoTiger
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:34 pm to Soup Sammich
I don't know. I think sometimes prosecutors won't pursue charges if there is any possibility of losing. Easier to let someone get away with it and hope more evidence comes to light than risk an acquittal
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:34 pm to Delacroix22
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Honestly if you just randomly killed someone who is a complete stranger to you in a secluded area with no witnesses, you would never be caught
But this case is nothing like that. The guy goes missing. A month latet family members get a tip and find in him in a very remote area known to the suspects camp. Evidence shows he was held their alive for a period of time before being killed. He was burned and thrown into a shallow grave. This wasn't someone he didn't know and it was by someone with knowledge of the remote location of the crime scene. That narrows the suspects down. Plus it was more than one person that had knowledge or took part in the murder because a female called and told them where the body was. I know nothing about the caller or if they even found out her identity. I don't know the inner details of this case.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:39 pm to memphis tiger
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I don't know. I think sometimes prosecutors won't pursue charges if there is any possibility of losing. Easier to let someone get away with it and hope more evidence comes to light than risk an acquittal
I suspect this but a few years have gone by now. Seems like they closed the case and will only reopen if a confession or something comes out bc I doubt they are actively investigating anymore.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:41 pm to Soup Sammich
quote:which case
There is a case from Concordia Parish about a guy that was tortured and killed. Evidence all over the crime scene and there is an obvious suspect but charges weren't filled because of lack of evidence.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:44 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Now you've got me curious. Did he tell some friends or something?
Murder case had gone cold. Six months after he went to a bar with a buddy and spilled. Been about 25 years in Angola.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:45 pm to Soup Sammich
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but if they can't handle it, wouldn't another department like state police or FBI step in?
Yeah, because State Police and the FBI solve every murder case they investigate
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:48 pm to deeprig9
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never use the internet to research or plan a murder. They can build an open and shut case on your internet activity alone, with no other evidence.
Yeah. Just ask Casey Anthony.
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