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re: How are murders still unsolved in this day and age?

Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Soup Sammich
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:49 pm to
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which case


Duel Moreland murder in Monterey, LA.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:52 pm to
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Maybe they did but this case faded out of view extremely fast being unsolved.


Um. Was this person aquitted?
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The Concordia Parish Sheriff’s Office (CPSO) today charged a Monterey man with second-degree murder in the death of 26-year-old Duell Moreland. CPSO charged Hartwell Layne Tiffee, 34, Highway 907, before noon today, Chief Deputy David Hedrick said. Judge Kathy Johnson set Tiffee’s bond at $670,000, according to Hedrick. Tiffee had been named as a person of interest a few weeks ago.


Jury doesn't indict Tiffee

Found it. That blows. They didn't have enough evidence.

This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 12:57 pm
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:55 pm to
When you find the answer let me know, I have wife I need to get rid of but not pay.

The people on 48 Hours always get caught
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:05 pm to
Why should we indulge you in our secret techniques? Sheesh man.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:05 pm to
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If a gun is used, make sure it is a dirty gun and throw it in a lake as soon as possible including any and all ammunition.

Cell phones can be used as location trackers. Few people leave home without them and most people who know you will testify that you never leave home without it. Leave your cell phone at home during the murder.

Dissemble the gun. With your cell phone still at home, drive long distances to disperse various parts of the weapon in different locations, preferably bodies of water with loose sediment.

If you want an additional alibi, use Windows task scheduler to automate a few emails to be sent loosely around the time of the planned murder. Then buy a new computer. Either go pc to apple or vice versa to help establish the reason why. Destroy your old computer (drill through the hard drive) and discard in another city. You’ll always have internet data to show emails were sent from your home IP address, but they won’t be able to reflect that it was scheduled activities without the hard drive, even if they thought to check.

If you’re going to dump the body, dump it near people who know the victim to create false suspects. If you have access to those people, follow them and collect some items from their trash like beer cans (it has their dna on it). Plant that evidence near the body.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Soup Sammich
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:06 pm to
I knew all of the involved. There is a facebook page of called Catahoula Injustice that covers a lot of details of the murder with crime scene photos and such.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:10 pm to
Well in rural town you have undertrained officers and a police force that doesn’t always have a ton of experience with major crimes. Sometimes it’s above their pay grade. They can try to call in the FBI, but the FBI has a lot of ground to cover.

Metro PD’s are over worked. They may have the resources, but just might be stretched too thin to solve everything.

And sometimes you deal with someone who is just a bit more sophisicated than your average criminal.

Not to mention all the modern political bullshite that ties up the PD’s.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:12 pm to
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I knew all of the involved. There is a facebook page of called Catahoula Injustice that covers a lot of details of the murder with crime scene photos and such.



Thanks. I'll go take a look.


I just realized something very personal to me in that Democrat article. His attorney and the DA.
If you google his name you can put 2+2 as not a lot comes up for him with the DA's name in same article.

What are your thoughts on AM? And is just being tossed aside as "we know tiffee did it but can't prove it."?


This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Soup Sammich
Member since Aug 2015
3301 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:21 pm to
I understand what the title of my thread is and I hit submit before I posted the context. It's less about how to get away with murder and more about how could this specific case be unsolved with a small town, small list of suspects with a ton of circumstantial evidence and most likely physical evidence. I believe the investigators probably had little to no experience or training to handle the case and wondered why they couldn't ask the state for help in the investigation. Maybe they did and it was the perfect murder but I doubt that.

It seems like a very solvable case but I'm not an expert.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:30 pm to
First, be aware of the ways in which you could be caught.

That means make sure the crime scene is as clean as possible and don't talk to that person on the cell phone, especially the day you kill them. Have an alibi. Get rid of murder weapon.. Make sure it ends up somewhere where it will never be found. Throw it in a large body of water or go bury it deep into the ground in an area not close to the crime. Do not go there in your vehicle. Go on foot and use shoes that's about two sizes bigger than you wear.

It would all be in the details.
Posted by Soup Sammich
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:34 pm to
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What are your thoughts on AM? And is just being tossed aside as "we know tiffee did it but can't prove it."? 


Interestingly enough, AM is married to a Tiffee and she was working for the DA and is kin to the suspect and victim. Duel is a Tiffee. I don't know if she still works for the DA's office because I haven't been around the area in a long time.

And the feeling is that its no doubt who did it but have no proof so its nothing that can be done now. The family is still offering a reward but I don't see anything ever coming from this case unless there is a confession or someone turns on someone. But you would still have the problem of evidence. I'm not sure if they know the cause of death whether gun or by beating. That could be a problem.

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His attorney and the DA. 
If you google his name you can put 2+2 as not a lot comes up for him with the DA's name in same article. 


They worked together at the DA's office where AM's wife was employed and still may be.

But I think both the DA and AM are good people. In fact, I think the DA recused himself from the case because of their ties together.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:35 pm to
Most things that happen in this world are a mystery. History and general goings on are often impossible to completely verify. People's memories are extremely sketchy at remembering well enough to even identify people consistently. Even eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable. Unless there is a "smoking gun" ever solving any murder is incredibly difficult, even with today's technology. It's already been said, but even DNA isn't some magic bullet. Maybe a bad sample or no sample or maybe the perpetrators don't have a sample in the system to reference.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:40 pm to
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Maybe they did and it was the perfect murder but I doubt that.



What has been said several times in this thread is that it doesn't have to be a "perfect murder." Getting away with murder really isn't all that complicated or difficult. It isn't like CSI. It's probably more typical than not for evidence that is left behind not to tell a particular story.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:51 pm to
One day someone will drink too much or get a guilty conscious and talk.
Posted by Hoovertigah
Fayetteville
Member since Sep 2013
3821 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:57 pm to
Don’t kill someone you know and don’t tell afterwards. Some say there is not a perfect murder... um yes there is, the ones that go unsolved.
Posted by Soup Sammich
Member since Aug 2015
3301 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:00 pm to
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What has been said several times in this thread is that it doesn't have to be a "perfect murder." Getting away with murder really isn't all that complicated or difficult. It isn't like CSI. It's probably more typical than not for evidence that is left behind not to tell a particular story.





I get what you are saying and agree. But this particular case is more like the OJ Simpson case. Everyone knows who did it but he went free. I will say that I don't know if the suspect had an alibi or what. I don't know the inner details of the investigation. I think when he was arrested he didn't talk without a lawyer like most idiots do and incriminate himself. When they couldn't provide evidence, he was released without charges. I think I'm answering my own questions but still don't know why they didn't take everything from the crime scene in as evidence.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:14 pm to
Make sure you dissolve the body in a plastic container.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:14 pm to
Man binge watch First 48 and you'll see how shite can EASILY not be solved.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41386 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:18 pm to
I want to know how the Boulder police fricked up the Jon Benet murder so badly.
Posted by Soup Sammich
Member since Aug 2015
3301 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:32 pm to
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Man binge watch First 48 and you'll see how shite can EASILY not be solved.


That's my point. Seems that most murders are easily solved. This wasn't a hitman or murder made to look like an accident or suicide. This was a murder by someone he knew well. He angered this person enough to torture and murder him. The suspect once was fighting with his brother. He made a snipers nest in the top of a hay barn and waited on his brother to show up. His brother stepped out and took a round to his arm before getting away. It was swept under the rug eventually.
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