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re: Hospital overload in Louisiana is it COVID or is it pent up elective surgery demand?

Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105262 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:56 pm to
Depends on the facility.

OLOL is all Covid all the time and doesn’t have enough staff to fill the beds in the facility.

General? They don’t seem to have any Covid patients.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
3181 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:57 pm to
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There were 345 COVID patients in the Baton Rouge Region on April 23 and today there is 219.



OLOL is as full as April. General and Oschner are more full than June, but much less than April.

Many of the current covid patients are Medicaid and no insurance. OLOL specializes in these patients thanks to Jindal.
This post was edited on 7/25/20 at 7:37 am
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
9435 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:00 pm to
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How is that? There were 345 COVID patients in the Baton Rouge Region on April 23 and today there is 219.


I really want to understand too. Especially when we had 2,100 COVID hospitalizations in April and 1,600 today

How are we overloaded with 500 less patients???
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105262 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:01 pm to
The quality of patients coming out of NBR are why The Earl and General Midcity gave way to OLOL.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76258 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:03 pm to
There's a whole lot of bullshite being spewed by hospital execs in regards to capacity and being overwhelmed. Like the head doc/CEO at a North Alabama hospital who has stated a 10% hospitalization rate. The second time she said it, I ran the numbers. It wasn't 10%. It was 7.85%. That 2.15% represented 294 hospitalizations, or nearly 300 beds.

That is more than double the beds her hospital even has.

Currently in Alabama, using the 14 day numbers, the hospitalization rate is 6.6%.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 9:04 pm
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12162 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:09 pm to
The doctor yesterday said it was pent up demand. But JBE has spun it how he wants it.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2168 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:12 pm to
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How are we overloaded with 500 less patients


It’s really simple, we are still doing outpatient procedures. And apparently the lake is still too. So you have a heart cath, endoscopy, simple surgery, even though you may leave the same day they still take up beds. Accommodations have been made for these patients in alternative areas because where they typically would recover are now Covid units.
Posted by YourHuckleberry
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
186 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:15 pm to
Sorry, but it’s both. There was a significant amount of time when “elective” and “time sensitive” were lumped together and not well defined. Many patients and doctors postponed non-urgent, but time sensitive procedures during the initial pandemic chaos. However, those procedures eventually need to get done (For example, cancer related procedures are not emergent but can’t wait forever). It got to a tipping point when these time sensitive issues needed to be addressed and the public got bored with Social distancing spiking the infection rate. Patients were festering at home and eventually needed treatment, many times much more severely than originally necessary.

Flattening the curve does not save the public from contracting the virus. Most of us will get it, or have already had it. It’s primarily purpose is to spread out the timeframe and prevent catastrophic healthcare failure.

The public needs to accept COVID similar to the flu, know that most will get it, and many will succumb to it, unfortunately.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:16 pm to
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Wasn't part of the "lockdown" to allow them to prepare?

WTF were they doing?

Goalposts take a lot of effort to move...
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56855 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:26 pm to
I’ll worry when the 100 million dollar convention center hospital is filled up
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:38 pm to
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Every single person in Louisiana is deceased. The virus wiped the state out. Now all the Texan women have nobody to frick.


This is one of the weirder posts I’ve ever seen on here
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7644 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:39 pm to
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OLOL is all Covid all the time and doesn’t have enough staff to fill the beds in the facility

This is correct. Wonder if this is due to workers getting COVID or the free government money’s that runs out at the end of the month.

The General ships majority of this Covids to mid city. Bluebonnet At the mall Is not full at all.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:42 pm to
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Wasn't part of the "lockdown" to allow them to prepare?

WTF were they doing?


Tik Tok videos don't make themselves.







(yet)
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:44 pm to
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The hospitals in Louisiana appear to be at capacity


Because that's how they make money.

/thread

ETA - that's not some controversial political statement, it's a fact. A hospital would operate at capacity every day if it was up to them. Lately they can basically have pick of the litter.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 9:48 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76258 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:54 pm to
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The public needs to accept COVID similar to the flu, know that most will get it, and many will succumb to it, unfortunately.

It isn't the public having acceptance issues.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56855 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 10:24 pm to
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Wonder if this is due to workers getting COVID or the free government money’s that runs out at the end of the month.


Unemployment
Nursing homes are offering signing bonuses & can’t get help
Supposedly surgery centers are facing same issues, especially from nurses that have kids at home
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42813 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 6:57 am to
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Flattening the curve does not save the public from contracting the virus.


Tell that to our governor.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:03 am to
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Unemployment
Nursing homes are offering signing bonuses & can’t get help
Supposedly surgery centers are facing same issues, especially from nurses that have kids at home


Finding/retaining LPNs before all this mess was a problem. Signing bonuses aren’t so much a product of the pandemic as they are the market.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3460 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:29 am to
Two data points from medical workers (ICU) I know in hospitals in other states. Influx is not from COVID, but from people holding off on seeking medical help because of their fear of getting COVID. People that would have faced minor issues are now facing serious complications because they were afraid to go to a hospital. The actual COVID numbers are relatively small and easily managed.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2620 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:31 am to
Not in LA, but this is what a friend who is a nurse, sent me on July 14th.

We are getting hours cut and furloughed! I’m so over this crap and the lies being put out. FYI there are no bed shortages here due to covid! We don’t have any covid pts at our hospital!
The bed shortages are due to the fact we don’t have elective surgeries and they are laying us off. So that effects how many people can be admitted to the hospital due to laying off of staff and cutting nurses hours. We have 6 floors at our hospital 5 of the floors have beds. We have at least 30 something rooms per floor. We only had 33 rooms with pts because they can’t afford to open up the other floors. And only 2 beds available to take on new pts. So when the numbers are being reported about bed shortages it’s not due to covid pts!!
I’m sorry, I’m loosing hours big time and only a ranging since feb 16.5 hours a week.


Things could have changed over the course of a week here in MS but that was her take last wk.
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