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re: Hoover, AL says no to building a Muslim school
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:53 pm to GRTiger
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:53 pm to GRTiger
Possible violation of the federal Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act of 2000.
They might be able to argue arbitrary and capricious decision, but that seems harder to prove unless they can show that no church in the municipality has ever been denied a land use approval even with similar development concerns, and that might not be enough.
I think it should be a hard path to overturn a local decision like this, and sounds like they put valid concerns in the record of the decision, not just we don't like yall. That said, would a Christian church be denied.
I guarantee no one wants this to go to lawsuit, discovery would not be fun for a lot of people.
They might be able to argue arbitrary and capricious decision, but that seems harder to prove unless they can show that no church in the municipality has ever been denied a land use approval even with similar development concerns, and that might not be enough.
I think it should be a hard path to overturn a local decision like this, and sounds like they put valid concerns in the record of the decision, not just we don't like yall. That said, would a Christian church be denied.
I guarantee no one wants this to go to lawsuit, discovery would not be fun for a lot of people.
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:55 pm to StringedInstruments
Not even Hoover's own Philip Rivers can outbreed the muzzies 
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:04 pm to lionward2014
Agreed!
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:05 pm to lionward2014
Exactly!
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:08 pm to StringedInstruments
The people of Kingman, Arizona also do not want that shite.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:10 pm to lsucoonass
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Why shouldn’t they be able to have their own school? What’s the legal reasoning?
Last time people wanted their own schools in Alabama the national guard was brought in
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:36 pm to StringedInstruments
100% support. Look what’s happened to Dearborn Michigan. They need to be stopped.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:39 pm to StringedInstruments
They should move to downtown Birmingdump. They are dumb enough to not only allow it, but most likely pay for it with gubment stolen funds.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:39 pm to StringedInstruments
It is not over yet. The matter will still go before the Hoover City Council. The City Council can still approve the school. This site is on the edge of Hoover, an area recently annexed into Hoover. Many of those speaking live in unicorporated Shelby County.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:41 pm to StringedInstruments
Good
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:52 pm to StringedInstruments
Good
Posted on 12/2/25 at 4:04 pm to WG_Dawg
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Homewood loves them some diversity and inclusion so I'd think that'd remain a perfect spot for this.
Surprised to hear that. Is Mountain Brook still nice and untouchable? Vestavia?
Posted on 12/2/25 at 4:34 pm to StringedInstruments
I don’t think the constitution was written with the thought of so many muslims being imported into the country, nor is islam compatible with the constitution.
It was also not written to apply the 1st amendment to the states. An unintended consequence of incorporating onto the states a specifically written and ratified limitation on Congress has made stopping muslim schools like this and muslim neighborhoods like in Texas a tricky legal situation. It has also led to takeovers like in Dearborn and Little Somalia Minnesota when certain Presidents started to import a ton of 3rd world muslims with religious views and cultures that aren’t compatible with the constitution or the American way of life.
It was also not written to apply the 1st amendment to the states. An unintended consequence of incorporating onto the states a specifically written and ratified limitation on Congress has made stopping muslim schools like this and muslim neighborhoods like in Texas a tricky legal situation. It has also led to takeovers like in Dearborn and Little Somalia Minnesota when certain Presidents started to import a ton of 3rd world muslims with religious views and cultures that aren’t compatible with the constitution or the American way of life.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:52 pm to lsucoonass
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Why shouldn’t they be able to have their own school? What’s the legal reasoning?
If religious schools are ok, they should be protected, absent a reason based on location/zoning law, but the council denied the bid to rezone the area for a school. Quite a few businesses are located in that area. The crowd/objectors weren't necessary (not arguing they had no business being there). Case closed.
Edited: Not the council, the zoning commission. I assume the council will uphold it, but not absolutely sure.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 12/2/25 at 6:02 pm to WG_Dawg
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Homewood loves them some diversity and inclusion so I'd think that'd remain a perfect spot for this.
The council elections in Homewood were scary as hell. They had a secret PAC pushing their candidates.
Thankfully they elected a conservative in the runoff who will hopefully make sure the moderate mayor stays moderate.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 6:27 pm to Loup
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I'm betting that there will be a lawsuit over this
Is separation of church and state dead?
How are they gonna sue the state for not building a religious school?
Posted on 12/2/25 at 6:29 pm to WG_Dawg
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did'nt see in the article but why is it trying to move from homewood?
Probably not so much "move from Homewood" as "expand into Hoover".
Posted on 12/2/25 at 6:35 pm to SirWinston
That’s a sharp looking family.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 6:43 pm to StringedInstruments
Bet they’d never get into Vestavia or Mountain Brook.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 7:02 pm to forkedintheroad
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How are they gonna sue the state for not building a religious school?
No one is saying they can't practice their religion.
City just saying you can't have your building here
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