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Honest apolitical question. Covid.

Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:59 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24784 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:59 am
It is being said that the newest variant or version of Covid is more likely to be caught by those who have previously had Covid and or had the “vaccine“. How is that even possible? If one has had Covid without the vaccine, their body should naturally have built up a defense mechanism to deal. Conversely, we were told that the man-made “vaccine“ keeps us from getting or spreading Covid. Neither seems to be true whether vaccinated or not. How the hell is this little bug adapting so well that it can avoid natural or artificial defenses?

Zero conspiracy here, just asking questions. This goes against common sense, seemingly, that if one has never had Covid before they are better suited against this new version?
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12073 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:05 am to
Election year coming. Fear factors exaggerated. Just wait…shite will hit the fan after Jan 1.
Posted by Cshaw91
Member since Mar 2019
2300 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:05 am to
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just asking questions
you’re not supposed to do that…
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2052 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:06 am to
Dunno, but the OP seems correct regarding the recent CDC risk assessment:
quote:

BA.2.86 may be more capable of causing infection in people who have previously had COVID-19 or who have received COVID-19 vaccines.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112556 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:07 am to
You need to believe the science and quit being a bigot. Mask up and get your booster. Do your part.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35371 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:08 am to
Trump's vaccine was/is shite. All he did was give a shite ton of money to Big Pharma and they continued to frick us with a vaccine that's so effective you need 1000 boosters just for it to work.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8143 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:08 am to
The flu virus changes each year. The flu vaccine you took last year will not work for the flu virus this year. It’s a virus. This is what they do.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6250 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:08 am to
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If one has had Covid without the vaccine, their body should naturally have built up a defense mechanism to deal. Conversely, we were told that the man-made “vaccine“ keeps us from getting or spreading Covid. Neither seems to be true whether vaccinated or not. How the hell is this little bug adapting so well that it can avoid natural or artificial defenses?


Isn't this what influenza has been doing for decades?

And arguably what makes "the flu shot" relatively ineffective?
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6402 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:11 am to
You're obviously a luddite and, of course, a racist, Kajiu. Now, put a mask on and do as you're told.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6452 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:11 am to
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BA.2.86 may be more capable of causing infection in people who have previously had COVID-19 or who have received COVID-19 vaccines.

It says "may" be.. I don't know how that could even work, unless they are just saying having covid before weakened your immune system.

Edit: I think I figured it out, they are saying it 'may be' more capable of causing infections (than previous variants) in people that have had covid or the vaccine.

Not that having covid makes you more likely to get it than people that haven't had covid.

It's lower in the link they clarify this
quote:

Immune Impacts: The large number of mutations in this variant raises concerns of greater escape from existing immunity from vaccines and previous infections compared with other recent variants.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 7:33 am
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
3132 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:13 am to
Two separate laboratory studies concluded this week that the new variant is not more likely to infect than Omnicron. You have to dig to find the studies. Media does not like to report good news.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:13 am to
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It is being said


There's the issue. Remember what was "said" last time?

Remember back...we all knew this was coming sooner rather than later and we need to allow our "experiencing selves" (the ones that saw this in real time and made plans on how to deal with it when it happened) to over ride our current "remembering selves" (the ones that look back through rose colored glasses over time) and completely and utterly reject each and every bit of this out of hand.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27046 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:13 am to
Have you tried the arrows on the floor in our stores yet? They seemed to work really well last time in our fight against COVID.
Posted by Naked Bootleg
Member since Jul 2021
1816 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:15 am to
It makes zero sense on the surface so I’ll go with clearing the path for more pharma subsidies (and kickbacks), fear-mongering and lockdowns.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:17 am to

You've started a thread that will be argued until the whistle blows at 5:00 Congrats
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5292 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:22 am to
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The flu virus changes each year. The flu vaccine you took last year will not work for the flu virus this year. It’s a virus. This is what they do.



If I'm reading the OP correctly, it seems like it targets those who have had the vaccine or virus previously more than non inoculated. That does seem a bit weird if true. The wording isn't exactly clear that is what it's saying but that's how I read it.

Covid all around is more bizarre than anything that we've experienced naturally. Even before all of the evidence of a manufactured disease, I thought there was some frickery at play with this virus.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24784 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:25 am to
Trump never mandated anyone take the vaccine. Not the general population.

As I said, this isn’t political.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167141 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:27 am to
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How is that even possible?


Because it's acting exactly how they engineered it
Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
1291 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:28 am to
Prepare for thy emergency funds to flow…
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:28 am to
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Because it's acting exactly how they engineered it


Isn't it just the flu?
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