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re: Honest apolitical question. Covid.

Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:31 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:31 am to
It would be helpful if you provided a quote or something in reference to what you are talking about.

Posted by Death Before Disco
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:31 am to
I think the CDC has “clarified” this and said they meant that this strain is more contagious to the vaccinated than previous strains. They are claiming they didn’t mean more contagious to the vaccinated versus unvaccinated, but more contagious to the vaccinated than prior strains were to the vaccinated.

Personally, it seems like vaccinated people keep getting COVID over and over while unvaccinated don’t get it as much. But that’s just anecdotal.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 7:34 am
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:32 am to



Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:33 am to
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BA.2.86 may be more capable of causing infection in people who have previously had COVID-19 or who have received COVID-19 vaccines.


better run out and go get that 5th/6th booster WB.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:34 am to

Ohh boy. You just sounded the Strannix siren.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:35 am to
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It makes zero sense on the surface so I’ll go with clearing the path for more pharma subsidies (and kickbacks), fear-mongering and lockdowns.


Its because it's badly worded. What it means is that it's more likely to cause re-infections than previous variants, not that having covid before makes you more likely to get it than people that haven't had covid.
quote:

Immune Impacts: The large number of mutations in this variant raises concerns of greater escape from existing immunity from vaccines and previous infections compared with other recent variants.
Posted by Cshaw91
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:35 am to
What’s it like to have Trump juice flowing through your veins
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:35 am to
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:37 am to
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You need to believe the science and quit being a bigot. Mask up and get your booster. Do your part.


Massive increase in heart failures be damned! Do as your told!
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:40 am to
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Covid all around is more bizarre than anything that we've experienced naturally. Even before all of the evidence of a manufactured disease, I thought there was some frickery at play with this virus.


Some Chinese dude at a bat at a wet market and started all this? I’ll be damned.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:41 am to
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If I'm reading the OP correctly, it seems like it targets those who have had the vaccine or virus previously more than non inoculated
You're not. Read Corinthians' post above. It's more capable of infecting the vaxed and the recovered than previous strains. NOT more likely to infect the vaxxed and previously recovered compared to those never exposed to either.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 7:44 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:46 am to
Thats my understanding of what the CDC Risk assessment said. Thus my confusion.

Based on what CDC knows now, existing tests used to detect and medications used to treat COVID-19 appear to be effective with this variant. BA.2.86 may be more capable of causing infection in people who have previously had COVID-19 or who have received COVID-19 vaccines. Scientists are evaluating the effectiveness of the forthcoming, updated COVID-19 vaccine. CDC’s current assessment is that this updated vaccine will be effective at reducing severe disease and hospitalization. At this point, there is no evidence that this variant is causing more severe illness. That assessment may change as additional scientific data are developed. CDC will share more as we know more.

This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 7:49 am
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:48 am to
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continued to frick us with a vaccine

For many people that’s the only action they got, have a heart.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:48 am to
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You're not. Read Corinthians' post above. It's more capable of infecting the vaxed and the recovered than previous strains. NOT more likely to infect the vaxxed and previously recovered compared to those never exposed to either.


I think this is correct. Confusion caused by a poorly worded statement, but nothing really to get upset about.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48999 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:49 am to
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How the hell is this little bug adapting so well that it can avoid natural or artificial defenses?


Because it is a man made virus that adapts and spreads as designed
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37559 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:50 am to
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Honest apolitical question. Covid.


quote:

the “vaccine“


Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83613 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:51 am to
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With only nine sequences detected, it is too soon to know how transmissible this variant is.


jesus christ
Posted by krs1190
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:51 am to
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Covid
sick of seeing this word.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15717 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:51 am to
The number of people who have not had Covid yet is very small compared to the number of people who have been vaccinated or previously infected. So if there is a claim that more people are infected with the new variant who have had the disease or the jab, it is because there are more on that side of the equation.
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
2989 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 7:51 am to
If there’s one thing I have blind trust in, it’s the CDC
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