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re: Honest apolitical question. Covid.

Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:40 pm to
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Neither seems to be true whether vaccinated or not. How the hell is this little bug adapting so well that it can avoid natural or artificial defenses?


Same way a cold does. It’s not “adapting”, It’s mutating.

Covid is here to stay. So get prepared to feel shitty from it 3 or so days a year.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:48 pm to
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It is being said that the newest variant or version of Covid is more likely to be caught by those who have previously had Covid and or had the “vaccine“.


I think people are misreading this. I don't think they are saying pure bloods are safer than vaccinated. They are saying this new variant is capable of infecting the vaccinated more than previous variants were. And that's because it has mutated and we need updated vaccines. They are not saying vaccinated are at "more risk" than pure bloods.

At least that's how I am reading it. Nowhere did CDC say "the vaccinated are at more risk."
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3148 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:58 pm to
The WHO and CDC have been wrong on almost chance they have had. They have zero credibility to thinking people.
Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
521 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:58 pm to
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I think people are misreading this. I don't think they are saying pure bloods are safer than vaccinated. They are saying this new variant is capable of infecting the vaccinated more than previous variants were. And that's because it has mutated and we need updated vaccines. They are not saying vaccinated are at "more risk" than pure bloods.

At least that's how I am reading it. Nowhere did CDC say "the vaccinated are at more risk."


People need to stop using Charlie Kirk as a news source. He's toying with them and getting rich from it.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 1:00 pm to
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I think people are misreading this. I don't think they are saying pure bloods are safer than vaccinated. They are saying this new variant is capable of infecting the vaccinated more than previous variants were. And that's because it has mutated and we need updated vaccines. They are not saying vaccinated are at "more risk" than pure bloods.

At least that's how I am reading it. Nowhere did CDC say "the vaccinated are at more risk."


Correct. They took the long road to say that the newer mutations are better able to evade immunity from an infection or vaccination.
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1148 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 1:11 pm to


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It is being said that the newest variant or version of Covid is more likely to be caught by those who have previously had Covid and or had the “vaccine“.


Quick factual science lesson: No vaccine, for anything, can prevent infection. If you are exposed to a virus, you will become infected and you will "shed" virus cells until your body beats the virus. Simply stated, to "trigger" antibodies, you need the virus. A vaccine only introduces an inert form of a virus to train your immune system to recognize it as foreign and subsequently produce the antibodies to fight it. Vaccines are good and are simply a "crash course" for your body's natural defense.

Bonus: The MRNA "covid" vaccine, by definition, is NOT a vaccine. There are many recent and continuing studies showing the MRNA covid "vaccine" actually has a net negative effect. It causes the body to mis-recognize its intended target, causing inflammation throughout the body, most often noted in the joints, reproductive organs (notably in females) and eyes.
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