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re: Holding young kids back a year/Repeating a grade.

Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:46 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:46 am to
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1st graders have homework? My 2nd grader goes to one of the best public schools in the state and he has almost no homework.

Hold your kid back if required. Confidence is huge. My son struggled with reading at kindergarten and it took all we had to get him up to level at first grade. He is doing better now with confidence in himself (he’s above the average DRA level for a 2nd grader)



My daughter is in kindergarten in a public school. She has to turn in homework weekly. It's nothing hard of course, but it's still a chore.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:46 am to
There really aren’t any drawbacks except for paying for an additional year of school if private school. If you can afford it, do it.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:46 am to
True story. My wife made my oldest repeat 9th grade…and we home schooled! She wasn’t getting her work done so my wife made her do it again. My wife is no nonsense.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:49 am to
Holding me back was the best thing my parents ever did for me
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:49 am to
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Do your research. Holding a kid back does more harm than good. There are many interventions available that will take effort.


I’d like to see this research. This was the exact opposite of our research. When our summer baby was in PK4, he had some maturity issues so we started looking into holding him back. We talked to his current PK and the prospective Catholic elementary school as well as about fifty or so other parents. All the feedback we received was basically to hold back if there is even the slightest doubt.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 11:54 am
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:56 am to
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Do your research. Holding a kid back does more harm than good. There are many interventions available that will take effort.



One thing I learned with parenting is there is no substitute for time. Meaning, when they are ready they are ready. Until then, you are often just frustrating everyone involved. Potty training, memorizing the alphabet...etc.

Not holding back and having the kid struggle their entire school career is a terrible thing. Maturity has no substitute.

It also is self defeating. If the kid can't grasp it, they assume they are stupid or just not smart enough. Too many losses early on and that becomes their expectation/reality.

Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:56 am to
We did this for my son in kindergarten. It was a phenomenal move. Most of the kids in his first kindergarten class were bridged and were a year older. He was struggling, and now he's doing great.

He is doing great now. It was a solid decision.
Posted by Gaston
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:57 am to
We held my son back in K, and it’s kind of fricked with him as far as friends go…though not terribly.

He’s probably right where he would have been class rank wise had he not been held back…so I don’t think it helped one bit with school.

As far as sports go…he had to give up his position in soccer, that he was way better than the ‘older’ kid because that kid already had one year experience in that position and there were others to fill. My son quit. He’s a boss fricking athlete otherwise, tops in the nation at what he does now. So give and take with sports.

I say don’t do it.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:58 am to
There were 3 factors I weighed with my kids: physical, emotional and educational maturity. My feeling was if they had 2 of the 3, then they were good to move on. Otherwise they would be frustrated having to adjust to a setting that needed to accommodate kids that weren’t peers at that point.

Doing it for athletic reasons only is just plain wrong. By the time they’re in high school everyone has pretty much caught up. Amazes me how many parents do it to have bragging rights in grade school.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:02 pm to
i would hold him back. everyone matures at different maturity points in life differently. i think a year difference could make a big change in his case.

He may be "keeping his head above water" but that may cause him alot of stress a strife to keep up. giving him a chance to catch up would do alot for his own self esteem.
Posted by slacker130
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:04 pm to
Did his kindergarten teacher see any of this? Most of his struggles are probably developmental and not cognitive at this point. He might not be quite ready for 1st grade.

Side note- homework in first grade is dumb and I'd question the motivation behind it and the benefit to my student.
Posted by Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:15 pm to
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Not sure what we will do, but holding one back and letting the other promote is not an option.


Why. If you promote both the struggling one will continue to struggle and the other one will get bored if held back. I get that they are twins but at some point they will have to lead their own life.

If one likes football and the other baseball are you going to let them play the individual sport they like or make them both play basketball so they can play together?
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:18 pm to
6 yrs old for 1st grade is typically a year early depending on his birthday.
Posted by MattA
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:18 pm to
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This is the OT, not Evangel Academy.


Those shenanigans still are alive and well in Caddo parish private schools and I’m sure it goes on elsewhere as well.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:19 pm to
We held our son back in kindergarten, because he wasn't ready for school, he just wouldn't participate with class work. We talked to different education professionals, and all concluded, You can let him go on and he'll struggle, or you can hold him back and he'll progress much better and easier.

We held him back. Kid has been on the gold honor roll for 90% of his time in grammar school.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 12:21 pm
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
32754 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:23 pm to
If you think he should do it, it is better to do it in an early grade rather than later.

I had a friend get held back in sixth grade, and he was absolutely miserable at school because of it.
Posted by lsu777
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:24 pm to
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My 6yr old son has really struggled this year. 1st grade at his school, they really start pushing homework, heavy on grades, etc.. Long story short, he is struggling. It's been that way since the year started. We thought maybe it was the teacher, since it was her first year teaching that grade. We've proven that to be false, because we've seen him struggle with basic concepts in homework etc..

The idea of having him repeat first grade is starting to be thrown around by my wife and his teacher. I am not a fan of the idea, but I obviously want what's best for him. But aside of his struggles, he has still managed to keep his head barely above water grade-wise. I'd be more open to the idea if he were absolutely bombing everything. I repeated a grade, but my parents did it in Jr. High. I admit, it was a good thing, I liked the people in my new class better, and it gave me a year to mature. But I am still not a fan of doing it for him.


well if he is only 6, he is already one of the youngest in the class. if he doesnt turn 7 before the end of the school year he would graduate at 17, which imo is too young and puts him at a disadvantage

so on top of that, him struggling....hold him back, use the age excuse as to why

but also might want to pay close attention to his behavior. does he have trouble concentrating...is he having trouble seeing etc etc etc
Posted by LATECHgradLSUfan
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:24 pm to
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As long as you aren't doing it just so he'll be bigger for sports.
Posted by HoustonChick86
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:25 pm to
No shame in holding him back, IMO.

If he is struggling enough to have your wife and his teacher notice, then it needs to be addressed.

Maybe just make sure if he repeats 1st grade he gets a different teacher. Obviously yours isn't the problem, but so that it feels new and exciting to him still.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:31 pm to
Have you checked for a learning disability?

Holding back is a personal decision, we held our youngest back. He has a September birthday so was really young, and a little immature to boot. He was a straight A student, so the repeat grade bored him to death. But it was a tremendous help to him socially. I would do it again.
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