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re: Here's the new tax brackets in case you're wondering.

Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:38 am to
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13581 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:38 am to
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If you are single with no kids and willing to work, you might have a lot of problems, but money shouldn’t be one of them.


Exactly. I have two with a third on the way. Kids are expensive. Daycare, even a moderately priced one like we used with our daughter, and the first year for our son, cost almost as much as college tuition annually. I'm glad they give a dependent care break so that my wife could keep working. Although it didn't cover 1/2 of it. Back then the cap was $5k annually. I think we paid over $800 a month, so over $10k for the year once you add in registration fees and supplies we had to buy for it.
Posted by ScopeCreep
In the thick
Member since Jul 2016
695 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:40 am to
That got cut from the bill. Grad school money is not income.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144685 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:40 am to
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Why does a single person pay more taxes



Because they have more disposable income.

And because they’re possibly gay.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:40 am to
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Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears that literally everyone is getting a tax break



You/we might get a tax break but your expenses are going up big time:

Without the individual mandate to buy health insurance it's estimated that 13 million Americans simply won't. What do you think 13 million fewer - ostensibly healthy - people not buying insurance is going to do to your rate? The CBO predicts that premiums will rise 10% every year for the next ten.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 8:42 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109027 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:40 am to
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That got cut from the bill. Grad school money is not income.




Good. It shouldn't be.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51656 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:41 am to
My cats have already been declawed and skinned alive by this tax reform.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:41 am to
I wish I was gay. It'd be so much easier...
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 8:42 am
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24261 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:41 am to
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Why does a single person pay more taxes when they are already paying city taxes for couples that have kids that go to school.


You also benefit from living in an educated society. I love when people bitch about taxes because they don't personally have kids in school yet these other people's kids will grow up and live among you one day. Don't you want to live among more educated and contributing members of society?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:42 am to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144685 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:43 am to
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Without the individual mandate to buy health insurance it's estimated that 13 million Americans simply won't. What do you think 13 million fewer - ostensibly healthy - peop


That’s very fuzzy math. Those people were not paying the mandate anyways.

There was a reason why the mandate wasn’t scheduled to try go in effect during BO reighn.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 8:44 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37576 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:45 am to
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Without the individual mandate to buy health insurance it's estimated that 13 million Americans simply won't.


A large majority of those people would be highly subsidized anyway. I read a WSJ article that a couple quit their jobs and became "self employed atridtd." They made $41,000 a year together and plaid $12 a month for Obamacare. frick them, they DECIDED to be bums because it was subsidized.

quote:

What do you think 13 million fewer - ostensibly healthy - people not buying insurance is going to do to your rate? The CBO predicts that premiums will rise 10% every year for the next ten.



So less than the average over the last couple of years? If you actually look at the data unbiasedly, this is going to make pretty much no difference. The less than $700 penanlty had almost no affect on people buying or not buying insurance.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40826 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:45 am to
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Any tax break I get from the bill will end up offset by the hit to scholarships/grants for grad school for me because of stipends and such now being taxable income.


This right here is a load of shite for students
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86740 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:45 am to
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What do you think 13 million fewer - ostensibly healthy - people not buying insurance is going to do to your rate? The CBO predicts that premiums will rise 10% every year for the next ten.



pretty sure my rate has been going up every year anyways

at least now I get a tax break
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184705 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:46 am to
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**Same basic deal for singles, higher incomes around 157k+ get a slight increase, everyone else gets decrease.



Yea it sucks for me but I am still for the bill only because of what it will do for the economy
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43552 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:46 am to
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You also benefit from living in an educated society. I love when people bitch about taxes because they don't personally have kids in school yet these other people's kids will grow up and live among you one day. Don't you want to live among more educated and contributing members of society?



But having kids is a choice that is very controllable.

This is essentially the government bribing the constituency to have kids.

Don't get me wrong, having kids is a not a bad thing at all, but let's not act like this is some uncontrollable thing that just "happens" and you should be rewarded for it.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:47 am to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144685 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:47 am to
Since I have 3 kids and elect not to send them to public schools lessening the tax burden on you, should I get a “pass” from paying taxes?

Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43552 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:47 am to
I don't remember the percentage, but there's a small sliver of individuals who have an employer and buy insurance from the marketplace instead of employer-provided insurance.

So most individuals insurance wont go up that much if at all. My insurance went up 2 bucks because we switched providers and have better coverage.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 8:48 am
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18580 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:47 am to
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Why does a single person pay more taxes when they are already paying city taxes for couples that have kids that go to school.


Preservation of the species.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:48 am to
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That’s very fuzzy math.

My "very fuzzy" math comes from that Librullll outpost Consumer Reports. LINK

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