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re: Here's the new tax brackets in case you're wondering.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:08 am to Tigereye10005
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:08 am to Tigereye10005
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This is flawed logic. Every single person in a society benefits from a more educated population. Want to keep more people off welfare? Let then get a quality education. Want to keep people off the streets? Let them get a quality education.
I totally understand the small government/libertarian mentality of "let me pay for what I use," but when it comes to education it doesn't make sense. Everyone pays for public education and they should, because everyone benefits from it.
How does the child tax credit factor into any of what you just said?
You are taking money out of the system. Not putting in.
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Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:09 am to The Mick
Awesome, I save 2.6%
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:09 am to dcrews
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Then don't have kids
Then there's no country tard. This isn't that hard to understand. People will have kids. If you tax people with kids the same, they won't be able to afford it. If they can't afford it, more people will "need" (be on) government assistance programs. It will cost the single person more to support those services.
Look, I'm all for people paying for what they use, but this is just dumb. People are going to have kids. That's not something that's going to change so you work around that fact instead of trying to change the fact.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:10 am to Mingo Was His NameO
The new tax credit is what 1400 correct?
You mean to tell me that 1400 bucks will make or break a family?
You mean to tell me that 1400 bucks will make or break a family?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:12 am to 50_Tiger
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The new tax credit is what 1400 correct?
You mean to tell me that 1400 bucks will make or break a family?
It's $2,000, $1,400 refundable. To me no it's not, but to a lot of people $100/month is a substantial amount of money
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:12 am to 50_Tiger
You are kinda jumping all over the place
You go from families having lower tax %, to public education, to EITC
You go from families having lower tax %, to public education, to EITC
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:12 am to Centinel
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Only on whatever you make over 195,450
good point, and actually the threshold was raised to 200K. so in essence I will break even as the limit's below this point are lower by 1 - 2%, still no real tax reductions.
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Also, you're not going to get much sympathy outside of the OT
not looking for any sympathy, just pointing out that this bill doesn't reduce taxes for all as the OP suggests
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:13 am to td1
quote:How much do you pay to TAF/Ticket deduction?
When you factor in the loss of the TAF/Ticket deduction (and others), I will end up paying more
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:22 am to Salmon
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You are kinda jumping all over the place
You go from families having lower tax %, to public education, to EITC
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No, my argument has always been about the child tax credit.
I spelled that out on page 3. Salmon!!
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 10:23 am
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:25 am to Panny Crickets
How much do you itemize?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:28 am to Centinel
quote:Appears Tboy signed off as soon as we asked him for specifics. Now scouring google to come up with anything to continue his narrative.
That's a bunch of words. Try backing them up with numbers. Until then, frick off.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:35 am to TJGator1215
Letting us keep more of our own money isn't adding debt.
Frivolous government spending adds debt.
Frivolous government spending adds debt.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:07 am to Quinn225
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Use birth control if you don't want to pay for daycare
I was 26 at the time and both of us were working. After my second was born 5 years later, I was making enough that when my wife asked me if it would work out her staying home, we did it. 4 years later and we've never even thought about her working again until all the kids are in school. She does work part time a couple days a week, but that's because she wants to, not because she has to. I was just saying that daycare costs are high, and if anything Dependent care breaks should increase.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:10 am to TU Rob
And it seems many people, not just here but everywhere, have no idea how local governments work in regards to property taxes. I've heard people without kids complain about their money going to schools. Well it also goes to Police, Fire, infrastructure, etc. I haven't had to use the Police or Fire Departments, but if/when that day comes, I'll be glad that property taxes have funded those departments and they will be there when I do need them. Same with schools. I paid high property taxes for almost 6 years before my kid started Kindergarten. She's now in 4th grade and we have excellent schools here. I look at tuition for private schools, and the property taxes I've paid living here 10 years looks mighty fine.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:44 am to TU Rob
So I go from paying 28% to 24%! 4% more in my paycheck! MAGA! I just don;t understand the liberal backlash. They get a reduction also!
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:04 pm to ItalianTiger
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So I go from paying 28% to 24%! 4% more in my paycheck! MAGA!
When people don't understand how the progressive rate table works it always makes a little less hopeful for our society
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:07 pm to TU Rob
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Dependent care breaks should increase.
This. Motherfrickin this!
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:07 pm to Cocotheape
quote:What do you mean?
When people don't understand how the progressive rate table works it always makes a little less hopeful for our society
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:13 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:Uhh thanks?
I ask this every two weeks.
edit: Married folks with 2 kids in my equivalent tax bracket pay half the tax bill I do.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:15 pm to Cocotheape
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When people don't understand how the progressive rate table works it always makes a little less hopeful for our society
Enlighten us old wise one.
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