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Here's the new tax brackets in case you're wondering.

Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:17 am
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43155 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:17 am
For married couples filing jointly, here’s how the proposed rates work out under the GOP tax bill:

New Rate New Income Bracket | Old Rate Old Income Bracket
10% Up to $19,050 | 10% Up to $19,050
12% $19,050-$77,400 | 15% $19,050-$77,400
22% $77,400-$165,000 | 25% $77,400-$156,150
24% $165,000-$315,000 | 28% $156,150-$237,950
32% $315,000-$400,000 | 33% $237,950-$424,950
35% $400,000-$600,000 | 35% $424,950-$480,050
37% $600,000+ | 39.6% $480,050+

***Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears that literally everyone is getting a tax break except for couples who earned between 400k-424k. They were in the 33% bracket previously and now will be in the 35%. Everyone else has a lower bracket now. (Am I looking at that correctly?)



For Single Filers:
New Rate New Income Bracket | Old Rate Old Income Bracket
10% Up to $9,525 | 10% Up to $9,525
12% $9,525-$38,700 | 15% $9,525-$38,700
22% $38,700-$82,500 | 25% $38,700-$93,700
24% $82,500 – $157,500 | 28% $93,700-$195,450
32% $157,500-$200,000 | 33% $195,450-$424,950
35% $200,000-$500,000 | 35% $424,950-$426,700
37% $500,000+ | 39.6% $426,700+

**Same basic deal for singles, higher incomes around 157k+ get a slight increase, everyone else gets decrease.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13259 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:18 am to
This tax bill has already killed 2 of my family members. I don't know how much longer I'll make it...
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:20 am to
Why does a single person pay more taxes when they are already paying city taxes for couples that have kids that go to school.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 8:20 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40132 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Why does a single person pay more taxes when they are already paying city taxes for couples that have kids that go to school.


I ask this every two weeks.


edit: Married folks with 2 kids in my equivalent tax bracket pay half the tax bill I do.

This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 8:23 am
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
3782 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:23 am to
Because they are supplying future work force, future domestic product and thus future tax revenues. Single no kids is a big ol zero for GDP once you quit working
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 8:24 am
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14033 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:23 am to
The way I understand this is that pretty much everyone gets a % reduction in their taxes. However people that had a bunch of write offs might not see a reduction. For example a guy I know has 10 LSU Football season tickets. So the write offs he gets from the "TAF Donations" wouldn't be a write off anymore. So he might actually pay more in taxes.

Is this correct? By the way I see no problem with this being done.

Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4373 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Why does a single person pay more taxes when they are already paying city taxes for couples that have kids that go to school


1. All couples don’t have kids

2. All couples who have kids don’t send them to public school

3. All kids aren’t age 5-18.

4. Single people have a ton of children too
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28079 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears that literally everyone is getting a tax break



Shhhhhhh it doesn't fit the Liberal agenda. What you should of said was, "The middle class is going to starve and die from this."
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
3782 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:25 am to
This is correct though I would guess all but the most extreme examples will see at least a modest savings
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40132 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Because they are supplying future work force, future domestic product and thus future tax revenues. Single no kids is a big ol zero for GDP once you quit working


What if the whole family goes on welfare?

What's the value of the GDP for that group then?

edit: I agree with you, but there are many occasions where a "family" doesn't produce more than a single equivalent.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 8:27 am
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:26 am to
What about the private plane runway I'm going to have installed at my golf course? Doesn't that give me a tax credit? Or am I just allowed to rape poor people now?
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65497 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:28 am to
This chart barely goes over $400k. Where is the chart for ot posters?
Posted by spaceranger
Member since Jan 2017
1585 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:28 am to
People with kids should pay more than people without kids. The Earth is already overpopulated and theyre just adding to it.
Adding one more person that doesnt speed up to merge onto the interstate at a time.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 8:30 am
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:29 am to
Married, no kids.

We are taking a big arse hit on property tax deductions.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:30 am to
I guess I pay less if I dont claim any dependents.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Why does a single person pay more taxes when they are already paying city taxes for couples that have kids that go to school.



If you are single with no kids and willing to work, you might have a lot of problems, but money shouldn’t be one of them.

If it is, it ain’t because of the tax brackets.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99094 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:35 am to
Any tax break I get from the bill will end up offset by the hit to scholarships/grants for grad school for me because of stipends and such now being taxable income.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:36 am to
quote:

What if the whole family goes on welfare?

What's the value of the GDP for that group then?

edit: I agree with you, but there are many occasions where a "family" doesn't produce more than a single equivalent.



If you taxed them the same you'd just being paying more for social services as a single person. Having kids is expensive as shite, if you taxed them the same families would have money left. I don't have any data, but I bet it would be pretty close to even for you because of the increased people needing assistance if they didn't get those tax breaks.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:37 am to
I guess you are right.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 8:38 am to
quote:

2. All couples who have kids don’t send them to public school

Yep. I help fund our shitty schools and send my kids to private school. Now I'm going to be able to setup a 529 and pay their tuition out of it too which is great for us.
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