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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN

Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33490 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:49 pm to
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It’s not going to be a well developed storm with strong winds.

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wasteland
Posted by BayouENGR
Seagrove Beach
Member since Nov 2015
2915 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:50 pm to
I think those of us who live here on the panhandle are hoping the GFS is flat wrong since the other models aren’t agreeing with a Cat 4 intensity
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:52 pm to
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I think those of us who live here on the panhandle are hoping the GFS is flat wrong since the other models aren’t agreeing with a Cat 4 intensity

I hope this thing fizzles out and no one gets it.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43295 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:53 pm to
HWRF going all out
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43295 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:57 pm to

18Z Euro
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:59 pm to
That does not seem ideal.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40227 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:00 pm to
Guess I’m glad I didn’t book a trip for tomorrow. Was waiting to see what best guess is with this and well I guess I got it.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40227 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:01 pm to
What height do they normally measure winds from?
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19988 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:03 pm to
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Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:06 pm to
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What height do they normally measure winds from?


For a hurricane, the only wind we care about is the surface level. (yes, technically 10 m above the deck, thx rummy)

All those weather balloons we send up do measure winds at all the levels as they go up.
This post was edited on 9/22/24 at 7:08 pm
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:07 pm to
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What height do they normally measure winds from?


33ft above surface.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:09 pm to
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What height do they normally measure winds from?

I'll add to what Duke said and say that wind is measured at all levels. In the case of the image I shared it is more about how all of those winds work together to make a stronger storm that is better at cycling those winds into and out of it.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78328 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:12 pm to
If y'all want to watch something in the immediate term, watch the storm(s) in the EPAC just offshore of SW Mexico. That storm will have some impact on our storm with how it develops.
This post was edited on 9/22/24 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:12 pm to
This gonna be a big (size) storm it looks like.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6490 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:13 pm to
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These areas have been very fortunate the last decade or so.


South Walton County has been lucky for over 50 years as far as winds are concerned. Storm surge/high surf in Opal, Ivan, and Katrina washed away some wooden beach access ramps/steps, but I don’t think there’s been a really destructive hurricane along 30A in living memory. Maybe because there wasn’t much there back in the day.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131548 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:15 pm to
HWRF and HMON both blowing it up

HMON would be a disaster for Tampa

Of interest all models have landfall somewhere between Destin and Tampa
This post was edited on 9/22/24 at 7:16 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115359 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:18 pm to
Not ideal
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14281 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:22 pm to
The first set of Hurricane specific model runs at 18Z in summary:

HWRF - 90 to 95 knots and 930 to 934 MB - Apalachee Bay Thursday mid-morning

HMON - 90 knots and ~940 MB - Homosassa (bad surge track for Tampa Bay) late Thursday afternoon

HAFS-A - 90 knots and ~955 MB - large eye Destin to Panama City Thursday early afternoon

HAFS-B - 75 knots and ~960 MB - Panama City Thursday early afternoon

Not real good agreement on track but all say hurricane with 960 MB pressure or deeper and a large wind field (size) Thursday morning or afternoon.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Not Phillytiger9
Member since Dec 2015
11855 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:24 pm to
Not comfortable that Florida is the target 5-7 days out. Almost always will move one way or another and any H shift west will be bad news
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