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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN

Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

20 foot storm surge

Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:09 pm to
How are yall not evacuated??
Posted by Saku
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2012
750 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:09 pm to
Anyone have the latest map showing the path?
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:09 pm to
The GFS is modeling the globe and the H- ?models are modeling the storm (typically using the GFS conditions for the shear/dry air/ect.).
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32721 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:10 pm to
Been a steady rain in Atlanta this afternoon, ground is going to be nice and soaked prior to Friday morning.

I smell flooding…
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51710 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Anyone have the latest map showing the path?

Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131565 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:11 pm to
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Round 2 in 10 days?



Why did you post a model 2 cycles old?

Its a weak slopfest into the keys now
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:11 pm to
MachoMan, edit that post to say its a modeled future storm and not this one.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:12 pm to
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Maybe a dumb question, but why does the GFS have it way weaker than the HWRF, HMON, and the HAFS? 960mb (GFS) to 920mb on the others. Low cat 3 or damn near a cat 5.


The GFS is not run at the same resolution as some of the regional hurricane models. It can miss the minutiae.

The GFS has Helene at 979mb by 7pm and that pressure was already surpassed, so it’s coming in stronger so far than the GFS modeled.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49682 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:16 pm to
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well baws I'm riding it out offshore. Don't believe the news, we ain't evacuated.


That is wild, how close are you to the storm?
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86128 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:17 pm to
Appreciate it rds.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:20 pm to
We're clearly in an organization phase. While it didnt go over land today, it was close enough delay organizing and contracting this big arse circulation.

This needs to close off an eyewall to really cook and the last VDM had us with a spiral band. Which, better than when recon got in there earlier with no notes about eye quality at all.

To get to the high end (4,5), it needs a symmetric eyewall to most efficiently flux that heat from the ocean.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8055 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:22 pm to
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How are yall not evacuated??


We work for coonasses that get made bosses to be fall guys and they don't know any better, but they do know weather better than the weather man.

That is wild, how close are you to the storm?

The storm continues to creep west, so closer every hour.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:22 pm to
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Round 2 in 10 days?


frick all that
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182346 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:23 pm to
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Why did you post a model 2 cycles old?


My bad




This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 7:24 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21522 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:23 pm to
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HAFS-A 18z run seemed to have a pretty good handle on where Helene is now (972mb at 7pm was the model prediction). It still got her down to 944mb and up to 140mph before landfall.

The simulated IR didn’t have a well defined eye until mid morning tomorrow on that run.


Yeah, the A does seem to be doing better short-term vs. the other 3 operational hurricane models. The other 3 get it down in the 920s.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:24 pm to
Wow. To say “stay safe” sounds ridiculous but geeze I don’t envy you.

Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:25 pm to
Well shite.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21522 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:26 pm to
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We're clearly in an organization phase. While it didnt go over land today, it was close enough delay organizing and contracting this big arse circulation.

This needs to close off an eyewall to really cook and the last VDM had us with a spiral band. Which, better than when recon got in there earlier with no notes about eye quality at all.

To get to the high end (4,5), it needs a symmetric eyewall to most efficiently flux that heat from the ocean.


There are some deeper storms firing off right near the center now.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 7:28 pm
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24874 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:26 pm to
Anyone seeing that last map from south texas is going to panic
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