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re: Healthcare in this country is a bunch of absolute crap for those who actually pay for it.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:45 am to 777Tiger
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:45 am to 777Tiger
Between retirement and taxes, 40% of my paycheck is gone before I see it. And I'll only ever see the money back from the 401k/457b. Assuming the house of cards known as the economy doesn't collapse before I reach eligibility. It's a total fricking sham.
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Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:46 am to Klark Kent
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in before AwgustaDog tries to make a pitch for socialism and free healthcare for ALL!
Knew I couldn't make it in before the Klark patented worthless one-liner.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:47 am to EarlyCuyler3
Its higher in that there are few, if any, sources of non-taxable income. Retirement benefits, for the most part, are not exempt. But, overall, its much cheaper to live here than in most of the US. Two people can live a great lifestyle for under 50k combined.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:51 am to DiamondDog
Pablo appreciates you doing this though.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:51 am to RDOtiger
Actually had to sign a document 2 weeks ago, that if we paid 250 direct to clinic, we were prohibited from filing the bill with our insurance co.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:54 am to DiamondDog
Everyone I know with a second passport only goes to a country with socialized medicine when they need healthcare.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:56 am to DiamondDog
I’m of the opinion you shouldn’t be allowed to voluntarily admit yourself to the hospital if you can’t pay a certain amount up front. You only get admitted regardless of pay ability through either a doctor referral or paramedic due to a 9-11 call (accident or health emergency). This ensures it’s actually necessary and the deadbeats aren’t gaming the system to get free care for their kids when they have the sniffles. If you want to use ER for non emergencies you must pay day 3-400 dollars up front
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:02 am to lesgeaux
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My daughter got RSV at a few weeks old and had to bring her to the ER. She got admitted on a Friday — main staff gone so nobody was able to discuss financials with me or my insurance coverage. The only treatment she received was .25L of O2/hr. Not one doctor came in to see her, just nurses and assistants every 8 hours. Discharged on Sunday morning.
Did you take her straight to ER or was she referred to ER by a pediatrician? Insurance will cover that if you have it but you need the doctor to send her to hospital and document it properly. Otherwise insurance will claim it was a voluntary admittance and she didn’t meet criteria for coverage
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:03 am to bad93ex
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Welcome to the Middle Class, no one gives a frick about you.
Ding ding ding ding ding.
I keep saying the favor the poor and rich in this country for years and years. They want to eliminate the middle class and the health care system in this country is further proof. Like OP said they're okay with taking care of the poor/homeless all day every day without getting a penny from them and incur a lot of debt, but the normal working class has to pay no matter what. Complete bull shite.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:03 am to DiamondDog
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The ones who pay are the ones that are given no accommodation
In your mind, who would make up for the debt if you let those that could pay, settle for less than they owe?
You are right that payers get screwed. Welcome to socialism.
But, I get just as frustrated at those that have this idea that it's possible for EVERYONE to just settle these debts at discounts with no ramifications.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:05 am to moneyg
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it's possible for EVERYONE to just settle these debts at discounts with no ramifications.
in the medical field this seems to be the case
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:11 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Knew I couldn't make it in before the Klark patented worthless one-liner.
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patented worthless one-liner.
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patented worthless one-liner.
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patented worthless one-liner.
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patented worthless one-liner.
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by EarlyCuyler3
this is where you use, “go outside and live a little” or “get some new materia”
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:12 am to EarlyCuyler3
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And I'll only ever see the money back from the 401k/457b.
at least you know what those are now…
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:14 am to DiamondDog
Pretty sad when a $600 bill is rough. Try working harder
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:19 am to AUstar
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Single payer is what we need, like every other country has.
If we could cut some BS spending, we could finance universal healthcare without massive tax increases.
This doesn't seem to work very well for the Medicare system. In fact, it's the exact opposite of what you state.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:21 am to DiamondDog
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Just don’t pay it
I stopped paying all the bullshite bills 4 years ago....used to constantly get "collector notices"...eventually they would just go away. If they called I would tell them to call the insurance company that I send thousands of dollars a year to.
4 years later...I have yet to pay a medical bill...my credit is still 750+
I'll never pay another medical bill
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:21 am to DiamondDog
I pay less than .8 on the dollar. F’em. I’ve paid what I thought was reasonable and moved on for years. I get letters I throw away all the time. Use the money to invest or pay off your house. The system is corrupt and criminal.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:23 am to DiamondDog
Next time, say No hablo espanol. A co-worker of mine flat out told an ER they weren’t getting a dime from him when asking for his copay (he’d already met his deductible, too) as he sat and watched all the usual deadbeats go before him and weren’t asked for a penny. We have to learn to play the system like them.
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 10:27 am
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:26 am to DiamondDog
Preaching to the Choir as it is a know fact that all OT posters are hard working contributors to society*
*except for the undetermined number of leeches
*except for the undetermined number of leeches
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:27 am to bad93ex
Too poor to be rich, too rich to be poor. Worst of both worlds.
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