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re: Healthcare in this country is a bunch of absolute crap for those who actually pay for it.

Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:15 am to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77845 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:15 am to
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Nobody is paying $10 for an aspirin
You're paying $10 for yours and 20 poors' aspirin.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148081 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:16 am to
Don't pay it, let them call and send you a couple letters if you dead set on saying that hundo baw

I'm afraid you were crying to the wrong old lady on the phone when you called. Wait until the bill falls on the right persons desk

Posted by RDOtiger
Zachary
Member since Oct 2013
1172 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:18 am to
I was under the impression that once you file an insurance claim, ObamaCare makes it illegal for the healthcare provider to accept any payments outside of what your plan prescribes - e.g. pay cash with no insurance claim or file a claim, but no in between.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6434 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:18 am to
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Same. Just use fake names. Illegal to ask for ID


I watch a lot of police body cam videos on youtube and all the criminals and poors who are constantly breaking the law never have their IDs lol
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88199 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:18 am to
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I was under the impression that once you file an insurance claim, ObamaCare makes it illegal for the healthcare provider to accept any payments outside of what your plan prescribes - e.g. pay cash with no insurance claim or file a claim, but no in between.



everything is negotiable
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148081 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:20 am to
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it goes to a total free market system
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21190 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:22 am to
Drop your insurance then, and become one of the non payers leaching off the payers.
Posted by Death Before Disco
Member since Dec 2009
6440 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:24 am to
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As it turns out, my insurance covers the clinic but the doctor who did the procedure worked freelance....so my insurance did not cover the doctor.
This will happen in the hospital too. The hospital will be covered by your insurance plan, but the hospital will use a 3rd party contract anesthesiologist and MRI technician, neither of which are covered by your insurance, so you take the hit.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72974 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:25 am to
in before AwgustaDog tries to make a pitch for socialism and free healthcare for ALL!
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135614 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:29 am to
You are white, right?
Posted by pmacneworleans
Member since Dec 2013
2157 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:32 am to
Moved to Spain several years ago. Public healthcare system here is tremendous. Wife had an illness - got an appt in 24 hours (and, we called on a Sunday to get one). She had bloodwork, xrays and a scan done all on that Monday with most results in the same day (thankfully, nothing serious). No charge for anything. Now, taxes are high (basically 20% of your income), but you actually get something in return for them. Oh, and prescriptions are insanely inexpensive here. US healthcare is broken, and it needs a systemic overhaul.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10424 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:33 am to
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We don’t have healthcare in this country, we have sick care. Insurance, especially medical, is one of the largest scams known to man and are 100% in bed with the medical/pharma industries to screw the payer.


This. Our medical system is designed to treat you after you get sick and keep you in the system.

We do not practice preventative medicine
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
10881 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:35 am to
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I said, "Look, I understand you're trying to collect and this bill, and I understand you offer cash discounts for those unable to pay. All I've got is $490.00 left on this FSA bill. Can you take that and settle the account?" It's .80 on the dollar but they've already been paid a portion by insurance. I'm paying on time. Maybe they do me a solid. They give cash service discounts all the time.

That’s not how this works boomer. Pay your bills
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:37 am to
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Hospitals are private business


Most hospitals are non-profits
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48766 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:37 am to
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Simply call back in an hour, speak with a different person, and get a whole different result.




Or send them a check for 5 dollars and tell them that is all you can afford at this time. I know a few bums that do this. As long as you make a attempt to pay they can't do anything then eventually they will just wash it away.



Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43886 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:39 am to
I tell people this all the time. Obamacare forced me to leave our small business and get a corporate job that provided benefits and left my wife to run the business.

Pre-Obamacare our individual family plan from BC/BS was $400/month with a reasonable deductible.
Post-Obamacare, the exact same plan was $2000/month with increased deductible and less coverage.

There's not a small business owner we know that doesn't have a spouse working a corporate job for the benefits. We simply made too much money to qualify for the 'cheaper' plans.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:40 am to
Tell them you identify as an illegal immigrant. You’ll get whatever you want at no charge.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9594 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:41 am to
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Illegal to ask for ID


No it’s not.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:43 am to
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Now, taxes are high (basically 20% of your income)


So really not that higher than here, you just actually get something for it.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88199 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:43 am to
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Now, taxes are high (basically 20% of your income)


So really not that higher than here, you just actually get something for it.



yeah, I pay a lot more than 20%
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