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re: Haven't Had a Statue thread in a While. Cowards at it Again.

Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:30 pm to
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:30 pm to
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But people like you are fanatics who think some things are absolutely unforgivable.


No. I just think a statue should serve the values of the whole community, not just parts of it.

A statue is not the same as a museum artifact. It's not meant to 'remind us of history.' it's meant to honor people who did great things. Some people don't believe partaking in slavery and commiting treason against America is statue-worthy.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 11:31 pm
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:33 pm to
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commiting treason against America


Ah well, I can tell someone hasn't read any history.....

Statues are part of history. They are neither good nor bad, they are simply a remembrance.

I'm sorry you are so threatened by them.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41927 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:35 pm to
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Statues are part of history.


Correct. Their time in the public space will soon be history.
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:39 pm to
I'm not threatened by them. I'm just not so close minded that I refuse to hear someone else's point of view.

And statues are not a part of history. They serve as a remembrance of history. Which leads us to the core of this debate.....what parts of history are statue-worthy? That answer is not for one individual to ascertain, but rather the majority of the community in question.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 11:40 pm
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:40 pm to
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Correct. Their time in the public space will soon be history.


LOL. People who focus on the wrong things pretty much become history too. Particularly those who have excuses for everything they perceive has been done to them.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:41 pm to
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People who focus on the wrong things pretty much become history too.

People who focus on the right things also become history.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39254 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:45 pm to
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Houma Sapien


Come on baw. Play my game. Name one militaristic figure from ANY WHERE in the world. From any period of time. And I'll tell you why they are bigots, racist, and all around horrible men.

So let's here it. Name one
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:46 pm to
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. Name one militaristic figure

Figure or leader?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79881 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:46 pm to
Blackjack Pershing
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85580 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:49 pm to
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snowflakes

You miserable fricking SJWs sure know how to ruin a word
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39254 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:53 pm to
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Blackjack Pershing


Caused thousands of Americans to die needlessly in wwi by refusing to integrate Americans into french/British units. The newbie Americans used early war tactics such as Frontline assaults and paid dearly for it, when had they been integrated they would have known better and utilized more modern techniques.

Prior to wwi pershing led an illegal crossing into Mexico to obtain Pancho villa. This also strained Mexican-American relationships.

So. Pershing caused needless American deaths. And led an expedition into the Sovereign territory of another country.

He's a bad. Bad. Man.

(Pershing was an amazing leader and did wonders for this country. This post was simply to prove that you can posthumously make any military leader into a pile of shite by today's current standards)

This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 11:57 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79881 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:56 pm to
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And I'll tell you why they are bigots, racist, and all around horrible men


Nothing there makes him a bigot, racist, or even near a bad man.

Questionable at the helm during some points of his career, maybe.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 11:58 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39254 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:58 pm to
That was a super quick 1 minute search. If you'd like, I can go in more depth. Although it will take me a few days to do research.

I guarantee I can dig up some racist shite he did (racist by today's standards)
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 11:58 pm to
Smedley Butler.
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:00 am to
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Come on baw. Play my game. Name one militaristic figure from ANY WHERE in the world. From any period of time. And I'll tell you why they are bigots, racist, and all around horrible men.

So let's here it. Name one


Not all sins are the same baw. I'd put treason and slavery up there with the worst.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:03 am to
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I'd put treason and slavery up there with the worst.


Still doesn't realize that not one Confederate was ever convicted of treason.

Your "reasoning" is a joke, dude.

And do you hold other countries to this same standard regarding slavery? You better get cracking, dude, you've got a lot of countries to put on your list and a lot of sins to pin on people.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 12:05 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79881 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:04 am to
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Still doesn't realize that not one Confederate was ever convicted of treason.



OJ never murdered anyone because he wasn't convicted.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16399 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:05 am to
Its a shame removing statues doesnt make the inner city murder rates go down, the school systems improve, or the social welfare get fixed. Its almost as if statue removal doesnt fix; morals, education, or work ethic. Oh well, those that have those things continue to succeed in life.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41927 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:05 am to
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Still doesn't realize that not one Confederate was ever convicted of treason.


Maybe the weakest argument I've ever heard in my life. Wow.


OJ never killed anyone either right?
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12858 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:06 am to
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Opposition of the movement is even less productive



False. Try again
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