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Posted on 9/17/20 at 7:54 am to Hulkklogan
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Maybe this documentary will be the shot in the arm the public needs to start demanding their representatives hold these companies accountable.
Nah, they'll just say stuff about it being socialist and the free market.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 7:56 am to Hulkklogan
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Maybe this documentary will be the shot in the arm the public needs to start demanding their representatives hold these companies accountable. This fight's been going on for a few years but the tech companies are winning.
They’re winning because the parties like what they’re doing. They’re pushing leftist ideology hard core. Why would the Democrats stop it? The Republicans won’t do anything because they use it to say. “Hey, this is what happens when the D’s takeover! Vote for us so that doesn’t happen!” Sure, they’ll have some hearing and banter about how they’re violating 1A rights, but ultimately, they won’t do anything.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 7:59 am to Bmath
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Basically, machine learning algos curate more than adds. They try and pick out news stories we are interested in as well as taylor search results using these data. It’s gotten to the point where most of our news feeds are dominated by media and info that meets our confirmation bias. The psychological ramifications are problematic for people that don't realize that social media and personalization services will create an echo chamber.
All of this.
We have so much information available to us, we can talk to basically anyone and anywhere at any time, and we use this technology to further entrench ourselves into our little bubbles.
We are tribal creatures and all we are doing is using social media/internet to find out tribes.
Also I find it funny (or frightening) that I have zero political stuff on my FB, but FB has me labeled as "conservative"
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:01 am to xxTIMMYxx
People in some countries think Facebook is the “internet”. Similar to the early stages of AOL. Where people still weren’t sure how to use the browser. Kinda why what Google was doing was so groundbreaking. The amount of data stored on the millions of computers in Silicon Valley is mind blowing. They way they speak of these algorithms abd essentially we are looking at the dawn of AI.
Elon Musk has a company called Neuralink. Which is soon starting human trials shortly. Their goal is to insert microscopic fibers into the brain to interface with computer software. The ramifications of this is borderline unethical. Hundreds of years from now the world will look very different. Just look at how far computers have come in out lifetime.
Elon Musk has a company called Neuralink. Which is soon starting human trials shortly. Their goal is to insert microscopic fibers into the brain to interface with computer software. The ramifications of this is borderline unethical. Hundreds of years from now the world will look very different. Just look at how far computers have come in out lifetime.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:04 am to Salmon
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Also I find it funny (or frightening) that I have zero political stuff on my FB, but FB has me labeled as "conservative"
Facebook probably linked you to TigerDroppings somehow.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:05 am to DeafJam73
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They’re winning because the parties like what they’re doing. They’re pushing leftist ideology hard core. Why would the Democrats stop it? The Republicans won’t do anything because they use it to say. “Hey, this is what happens when the D’s takeover! Vote for us so that doesn’t happen!” Sure, they’ll have some hearing and banter about how they’re violating 1A rights, but ultimately, they won’t do anything.
I agree and I'm Democrat
First thing that needs to happen is removing any and all political ads from social media platforms, and then we need government to figure out how to regulate news being pushed on the platforms.
Unfortunately our federal government is about 20 years behind on technology, and it's filled with geriatrics. They can't understand the scope of the problem much less how to fix it. We need young leaders in both government and private sectors to lead the way.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:05 am to Salmon
Social media is, by far, the worst human invention we could possibly have produced.
People constantly lie to themselves as to the “benefits” they gain from it, in order to justify their addiction.
There is nothing beneficial about social media.
People constantly lie to themselves as to the “benefits” they gain from it, in order to justify their addiction.
There is nothing beneficial about social media.
This post was edited on 9/17/20 at 8:06 am
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:07 am to Scruffy
No that's not true Scruffy. It may be a net negative but there are positive aspects. We have to be congnizant of both aspects to properly regulate it.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:07 am to Hulkklogan
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First thing that needs to happen is removing any and all political ads from social media platforms, and then we need government to figure out how to regulate news being pushed on the platforms.
unless you want the government to regulate the entire internet, this isn't going to help anything
people will still find the affirmation they want, whether it is on social media, blogs, MSM, whatever
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:08 am to Hulkklogan
quote:That would likely do very little.
First thing that needs to happen is removing any and all political ads from social media platforms, and then we need government to figure out how to regulate news being pushed on the platforms.
Political ads are blamed for all of the ills, yet they aren’t even a single percentage point of the issue.
The concept is the problem, not the ancillary components.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:08 am to Scruffy
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Social media is, by far, the worst human invention we could possibly have produced.
People constantly lie to themselves as to the “benefits” they gain from it, in order to justify their addiction.
There is nothing beneficial about social media.
sure there is
the problem isn't social media, the problem is the people that use social media
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:10 am to Salmon
quote:List off the tangible benefits that are gained from social media’s existence.
sure there is
the problem isn't social media, the problem is the people that use social media
And social media itself is the problem.
Massive spikes in anxiety, depression, and suicide in younger generations.
Huge mental and social changes in entire generations.
Massive social polarity secondary to tribalism generated, not by the people using the programs, but generated by the programs themselves.
People talk about ending up in bubbles, but these programs are built to put people into bubbles.
The programs are the problem.
This post was edited on 9/17/20 at 8:13 am
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:12 am to Hulkklogan
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It may be a net negative but there are positive aspects.
The creators of these companies from the show say the only solution is to remove them there is no fixing what they have created
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:14 am to Scruffy
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List off the tangible benefits that are gained from social media’s existence.
easily shareable information, which is the entire point
social media has never given me any type of grief or anxiety because I'm not using it to seek out my outrage porn
the benefits for me are easily able to set up parties/gatherings, follow local businesses that promote on social media, easily keep up with friends and family, all of which are positive and beneficial things to me
I'll never understand why a place like TD, that almost always preaches personal responsibility, completely trashes that thought when it comes to social media
its super weird
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:15 am to Scruffy
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This documentary is giving Scruffy anxiety.
I work for a software company so I knew a lot of this already. I deleted FB off my phone last night after watching this documentary. Already been using DuckDuckGo and Firefox for my Internet usage and search. Not sure in today's day and age you can totally eliminate your footprint, but you can certainly do things to reduce it.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:15 am to LoneStar23
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The creators of these companies from the show say the only solution is to remove them there is no fixing what they have created
Not at all what they said. They were not advocating to bad social media. They were pushing for regulation.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:16 am to Salmon
Same log in emails on FB and TD?
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:16 am to Salmon
It makes me worried because people who are say...15 years old today have never known a world without social media.
Facebook was originally meant to be the place where you set up parties, follow local biz, etc. To the younger people, it is a news source, a source of their version of truth.
And then you have the old people who didn't use Facebook back when it was just the place for setting up parties. They started using it when it became their news source, a source of their version of the truth.
Facebook was originally meant to be the place where you set up parties, follow local biz, etc. To the younger people, it is a news source, a source of their version of truth.
And then you have the old people who didn't use Facebook back when it was just the place for setting up parties. They started using it when it became their news source, a source of their version of the truth.
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:19 am to GetCocky11
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It makes me worried because people who are say...15 years old today have never known a world without social media.
oh trust me, I constantly worry about the day that my kids get on social media
it certainly has its dangers, I'm not denying that, but like with guns or any other tool that has its dangers, I think teaching how to use it properly is the way to go instead of just pushing it as some big boogeyman
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