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yatesdog38
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re: Have you watched The Social Dilemma
They, Twitter, are not making money. They are "losing" money. I think they gonna find that shite buried in people's heads one day. Twitter is programming people slowly. One day those fools gonna tell errbody they hypnotized to give them all dey money. Then Twitter never gonna be seen again.

Don't do it. Don't give in to Twitter.


Scruffy
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re: Have you watched The Social Dilemma
This documentary is giving Scruffy anxiety.


Rust Cohle
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re: Have you watched The Social Dilemma
Check out Noah Yuval Harari for a real picture where humanity might go, it’s not like the movies portray it to be. We may be the last generations of Homo Sapiens, giving way to a new species so intertwined with algorithms, that their way of life would be alien to us.
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most people are too stupid to understand social media

And they also don’t care. That is the more frightening takeaway to me.


ibldprplgld
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And they also don’t care. That is the more frightening takeaway to me.


Yes, and I do believe it's taking a toll on people's well-being and mental health.

And the irony of big tech testifying in Washington that they have the ability to re-introduce ethics to their platforms.

"Hey, we can fix the problem we created; we promise we can regulate ourselves. Trust us."


Sun God
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However they probably will call this fake news and turn it back to WWE and drink more mountain dews.

frick you dude.

I’ll be at a classy restaurant drinking a dewgarita




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TrimTab
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"Hey, we can fix the problem we created; we promise we can regulate ourselves. Trust us."

Now that’s funny. Sad and scary, but funny.


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lostinbr
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re: Have you watched The Social Dilemma
I watched it tonight. Stumbled across this thread halfway through it, actually. I have to admit, I came away feeling differently about big tech which surprised me.

I’ve felt pretty strongly that there is a need to regulate big tech’s use of personal data for a long time. But my reasons mostly centered around how increasingly difficult it is to function in today’s society with any semblance of privacy rights. But they don’t really talk about privacy rights at all. In fact, they make a very good point - the last thing any of these firms want to do is hand over their cash cow (your data) to someone else.

They do, however, make a pretty compelling case about how big tech is stoking division, manipulating behavior, and ultimately harming society through their current business models. None of this is terribly surprising. I guess it just opened my eyes to the extent of it all.

Their comparison to news media was especially apt, IMO. The comparison suggested that these tech business models are basically the equivalent of taking your biased media outlet of choice, analyzing your individual emotional response to stories using using AI, then curating each additional story, advertisement, and community response - carefully framing everything to maximize your engagement. And then repeating this process for each of the other 300 million people in this country. Honestly, it makes me worry about our society when you consider this is only the beginning.


armsdealer
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re: Have you watched The Social Dilemma
It was OK. You just have to know how to play the system. I do most of my stuff in private browsing with blockers, when I WANT targeted ads I just open a regular chrome browser and search for stuff related to it, I have found some great deals with targeted ads, especially for first time customer offers. I don't post shite on social media. I will post in groups and on others timelines, but if you look at my timeline it is other people tagging me on birthdays, fathers day, first day of school, etc. I share a meme about once ever 3 years, never a personal post.


lostinbr
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re: Have you watched The Social Dilemma
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I do most of my stuff in private browsing with blockers,

Google still tracks you even if you’re in Incognito.
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I don't post shite on social media. I will post in groups and on others timelines, but if you look at my timeline it is other people tagging me on birthdays, fathers day, first day of school, etc. I share a meme about once ever 3 years, never a personal post.

Facebook cares more about what you view than what you post.

I say both of this things because the point is more about how Google and Facebook manipulate the content that you see than it is about targeted ads. The only way to avoid that content manipulation is to.. well.. not search for anything on Google or look at anything on Facebook.


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Their comparison to news media was especially apt, IMO.


I agree. The whole time I was thinking we regulate TV and radio through the FCC. We need some regulatory body that inserts some ethics and public protection into their business models.

The engineering to make these tools addictive was interesting, but not surprising. I liked the quote about only two groups call their customers “users.” Drug dealers and software companies.

I also thought the correlation to teen mental health and societal divide was troubling. We need to push for better regulation of this
(And I’m typically anti regulation).


BitBuster
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re: Have you watched The Social Dilemma
A good sister documentary to watch is "The Great Hack" - also on Netflix.

It's about Cambridge Analytica, mostly on its role in the 2016 election, and how they used data mining to sell targeted ads.

The TL;DW of it is, Facebook has all this data, companies can take this data, analyze it, and produce any result you want if you have the money to back it. Facebook isn't manipulating you themselves, it's the ones buying ads using their data. They don't care who spends the money on ads, they're in the business of making money.

Do you want to sell toothbrushes? They can find your audience. To you want to fix an election in Trinidad? They can do it. It's scary.
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DeafJam73
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re: Have you watched The Social Dilemma
Isn’t that the one about how terrible social media is?


Hulkklogan
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re: Have you watched The Social Dilemma
I'm more surprised at how many people are mystified by it and unaware of all of the problems social media is causing. I'm a techy so maybe I just keep up with it more than others.

I've listened to podcasts with that kooky looking dude, Jaron Lanier. Don't judge a book by its cover with that guy - he's absolutely smart. Read his book.

We have to cut back on social media use and get government to regulate the industry
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EarlyCuyler3
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re: Have you watched The Social Dilemma
This is why you use adblocking and plugins to block this stuff. And don't post or pay attention to Facebook. You have zero anonymity really thanks to browser fingerprinting, but you can still block all their ads. You'd have to use tor to get really anonymous and escape.


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DeafJam73
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re: Have you watched The Social Dilemma
It doesn’t take a documentary to tell you that social media can be and has been very toxic to society. Like Herschel Walker said, social media makes it too easy for people to be disrespectful without getting punched in the mouth for it. Too many people treat cyber space like the real world. It’s so damn easy to pass lies off as facts and have the masses eat it up. Manipulation is so easy on these platforms. Also, as far as I’m concerned, these big tech companies need to face consequences. They’re allowing this shite storm to happen, and blatantly favoring one group over another.


Ancient Astronaut
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Propaganda


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Hulkklogan
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re: Have you watched The Social Dilemma
Maybe this documentary will be the shot in the arm the public needs to start demanding their representatives hold these companies accountable. This fight's been going on for a few years but the tech companies are winning.


Ed Osteen
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Maybe this documentary will be the shot in the arm the public needs to start demanding their representatives hold these companies accountable.




Ed Osteen
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You just have to know how to play the system. I do most of my stuff in private browsing with blockers


Private browsing is so your wife doesn’t type p in the search bar and pornhub pops up. It doesn’t stop your information from being collected


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