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re: Harvey ***Catastrophic Flooding Event***

Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:28 am to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:28 am to
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They weren't prepared for this just like Nagin and Co weren't prepared for Katrina. There isn't a set plan for when things like this happen. There should be.


I think they should be able to separate the people with issues (drugs, violence, mental issues, etc.) from the families with little kids in these shelters.

Reporter said a few people have come to her with these concerns.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12130 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:28 am to
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It is kind of a shame that Houston is going steal the press from the poor people that got the first punch of Harvey. Reminds me of Katrina with the Mississippi coast


And the east TX, western Louisiana folks who Rita slammed.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:28 am to
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If true the levee or the dam will likely wash out


There could be scouring on the edges, but it basically just goes around the levee instead.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27843 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:29 am to
quote:

They weren't prepared for this just like Nagin and Co weren't prepared for Katrina. There isn't a set plan for when things like this happen. There should be.


You're right. I can't speak for Houston the past few days, but we all know with Katrina protocols were in place and they just weren't followed by the assholes who were in positions to follow them.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147864 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:29 am to
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Reed Timmer Extreme Meteorologist
?Working on hurricane probe data we collected in category 4 Hurricane #Harvey in Rockport, TX! Max wind 122 mph. Half second means plotted here. I'll overlay pressure, temperature data next.
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Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
15329 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:30 am to
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Lady on KHOU talking about people stealing and on drugs in the convention center shelter with no food, blankets, or showers.


Probably from Greenspoint
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85708 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:30 am to
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My buddy lives in Panther Creek and as of yesterday they were dry. He said neighborhoods around him have water but not theirs.



Any way you can inquire about Glen Loch between Falling Leaf and Royal Oaks?
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
11009 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:31 am to
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Muice


Thank you
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41418 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:32 am to
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This reservoir situation is going to a clusterfrick of epic proportions. Addicks is supposed to stay above 108' until September 20th.

Barker is supposed to overtop on September 1st and begins to recede on September 4th.


quote:

slackster


I am very worried about this. My wife and I have a number of friends and former co-workers who live in the Old Cinco, Grand Lakes, Kelliwood, Nottingham areas. My wife used to teach at Taylor HS on Kingsland.

It seems like the media isn't covering this very well, and what they are covering seems to focus on what will happen downstream with the releases. I heard Addicks "crested" this morning which makes no sense to me considering how much water sill has to enter it.

Any updates you can provide would be appreciated.
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
17323 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:32 am to
Man, still very worried about this Barker reservoir. Sitting in Nottingham Country and my streets are dry, but the elevated levels in he reservoir make me nervous
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7711 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:33 am to
It is easy to spot someone who has never worked in emergency operations. You could have Godzilla show up in a city and some jackass is going to question why a plan didn't exist for that.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41418 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:34 am to
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There is no way to prepare for a metropolitan area of 8m+ people to be flooded. There's no easy plan to go pick people off of rooftops when you have no way of knowing where the water will be that high.

People see the reality of a disaster and think that there's some smooth way to handle this.


There's a reason they call it a "disaster"

However maybe now people will stop giving NOLA and LA so much crap about how Katrina was handled.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:35 am to
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There is no way to prepare for a metropolitan area of 8m+ people to be flooded. There's no easy plan to go pick people off of rooftops when you have no way of knowing where the water will be that high.



This. If all of those Houston totals end up between Wharton and Victoria, no one would have questioned the preparation and response. You simply don't know with rainfall totals.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:36 am to
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Man, still very worried about this Barker reservoir. Sitting in Nottingham Country and my streets are dry, but the elevated levels in he reservoir make me nervous


Do you back up to the reservoir?
Posted by Muice
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1268 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:37 am to
I just texted him and asked, haven't heard back yet. But he did confirm Panther Creek is still dry. I'll reply again if he responds with any info
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
17323 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:38 am to
Not really. We weren't on the original list of homes affected, but our neighborhood was added at 7pm last noght
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:39 am to
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It seems like the media isn't covering this very well, and what they are covering seems to focus on what will happen downstream with the releases. I heard Addicks "crested" this morning which makes no sense to me considering how much water sill has to enter it.


The media has been dog shite covering this. They confuse the hell out of folks.

I'll be available to cover it more accurately in an hour or so, but folks in the neighborhoods listed in the two reservoirs should consider evacuation. The list is on KPRC's site I believe, in one of the articles on the reservoir.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85708 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:40 am to
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I just texted him and asked, haven't heard back yet. But he did confirm Panther Creek is still dry. I'll reply again if he responds with any info




Thanks Man, looks to be about a mile from where your buddy would be. Worried about friend I have up there I haven't heard from. They live directly on Glen Loch between Falling Leaf and Royal...

Like I said, shows Glen Loch is closed just south of that and north of that... Hoping where they are is the high part and they didn't flood and are ok
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 9:41 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:40 am to
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Not really. We weren't on the original list of homes affected, but our neighborhood was added at 7pm last noght


I believe those neighborhoods were added due to Addicks overflowing after 108'. What was the neighborhood again?

ETA nvm, I see it.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 9:42 am
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6351 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:41 am to
Are there any maps available that shows areas where flooding is exactly taking place?

Are the older parts of Houston flooding also like around downtown?
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