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re: Guy ridicules dating profiles of 40-ish women who “want kids someday”
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:02 am to Scruffy
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:02 am to Scruffy
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I need to copy all of the statistics that I’ve already posted in this thread so I can just repost them when new people jump in.
I'm not disputing your statistics or saying it isn't much harder and much riskier for older women to have children. Let's get that straight.
I'm just saying the timelines have been slowly pushing back with new science, maternal fetal medicine, nutrition, etc.
There is definitely a ceiling here though, absolutely no doubt about that. Can't stop time.
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Projecting the current trajectory
quote:this hasn't exactly been your strong suit if we're being honest here
by RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:03 am to SuperSaint
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wife and I both make excess of $100k a year and have gotten to a point where if one of us were to lose our job that we could tread water, completely flat broke on a single income. But that would require uncomfortable concessions until we were both employed again.
So, you wouldn’t be comfortable. Just able to provide the bare minimum for your kids.
And if you’re both making above 100k, you’re way above the median in most Southern states. The median household income in Kentucky is $60k with about 16% of the population here below the poverty line.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:05 am to BluegrassBelle
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You roll your eyes, but economically how many families today can legitimately maintain a comfortable household with just one income? I imagine in most of the South the mean is below $100k.
I mean just the fact that modern women are delaying the process of settling down to "focus on their careers" when the reality is that they need to do both simultaneously.
Not arguing your point. Just saying we seem to have a lot of women who are 40 and have purposefully never married at all. As much as progressive feminism tells us we can have it all, we really can't.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:05 am to SuperSaint
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his hasn't exactly been your strong suit if we're being honest here
I project prison again in your future.
Reality isnt your strong suit, if youre being honest here.
Hows Sugar Momma?
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 11:18 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:05 am to BluegrassBelle
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For all the complaints of women having children with shitty men, you should probably be encouraging women to have standards.
It’s not that women shouldn’t have standards, it’s that they overvalue themselves, and many don’t seem to appreciate the evolutionary/biological reality that makes men prefer younger women.
Ironically, it seems that what has happened is that (compared to before the sexual revolution) “successful” women have drastically lowered their standards (as evidenced by their promiscuity) at a time when they were at their own highest value as a partner and then raised their standards as they got older and had less value.
I hate to use the word value, because a woman’s reproductive capacity doesn’t determine her value as a person, but I’m just talking about how males are attracted to females.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 11:07 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:06 am to TejasHorn
quote:that's an indictment on your wife Baw. Cray cray birds of a feather flock ..... yada yada
My wife has 3 single friends in their late 30s/40s. They aren’t bad looking, have great jobs but I can’t remember any of them having a serious BF.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:06 am to BluegrassBelle
Not sure why but I lose respect for women that are 100% capable of work and don’t. I’m not talking about stay at home moms raising toddlers and babies. I’m talking about perfectly capable intelligent women who literally sit on their arse all day and “keep up the household” when they have older kids that mostly maintain themselves aside from feeding them and buying them shite.
I don’t think I could respect my wife the same if she just sat home all day doing next to nothing
I don’t think I could respect my wife the same if she just sat home all day doing next to nothing
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 11:14 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:07 am to Geauxld Finger
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I’m talking about perfectly capable intelligent women who literally sit on their arse all day and “keep up the household”
Wanna be trophy wives.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:09 am to SuperSaint
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wife and I both make excess of $100k a year and have gotten to a point where if one of us were to lose our job that we could tread water, completely flat broke on a single income. But that would require uncomfortable concessions until we were both employed again.
Are you in California?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:09 am to Geauxld Finger
quote:tbh the women I know who have done that or are doing that is because the husband does not do anything around the house - not even his own laundry - or even drive his laundry to the cleaners
“keep up the household” when they have older kids that mostly maintain themselves aside from feeding them and buying them shite.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 11:10 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:11 am to Bjorn Cyborg
A co-worker of mine is getting a divorce because she and her husband agreed not to have kids and after almost of 20 years of marriage and focusing on their careers, she now wanted children in their mid 40’s. He didn’t want to go down that road and was content with their lives
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 11:34 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:15 am to Bourre
Can’t change the deal like that.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:16 am to GreenRockTiger
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tbh the women I know who have done that or are doing that is because the husband does not do anything around the house - not even his own laundry - or even drive his laundry to the cleaners
I see that, but the laundry don’t take all day. You can run to the grocery once a week. That woman better be sucking the life out of him at his beck and call for that kind of life
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:16 am to Earnest_P
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This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 10:13 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:17 am to GreenRockTiger
There's nothing wrong with this arrangement provided the roles and expectations are clearly defined.
I.e.: I labor in exchange for money which I then exchange for food and shelter for you and the babies. You do not labor, but you run the household, 100% of it, so that I may focus on the former.
In today's world though, the stay-at-home wives/moms expect their husbands to work all day and then come home to do their "fair share" of the household duties. When the man gets home from work, it's her turn to "take a break" ... so he ends up working all day, then working all evening too.
I.e.: I labor in exchange for money which I then exchange for food and shelter for you and the babies. You do not labor, but you run the household, 100% of it, so that I may focus on the former.
In today's world though, the stay-at-home wives/moms expect their husbands to work all day and then come home to do their "fair share" of the household duties. When the man gets home from work, it's her turn to "take a break" ... so he ends up working all day, then working all evening too.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 11:19 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:21 am to Longhorn Actual
quote:this made me cringe bc it’s a terrible generalization- I know many families where this is not the case
In today's world though, the stay-at-home wife/moms expect their husbands to work all day and then come home to do their "fair share" of the household duties. When the man gets home from work, it's her turn to "take a break" ... so he ends up working all day, then working all evening too.
But if there are toddler and babies around, I could see where the Mrs. needs a break
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:24 am to HouseMom
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I mean just the fact that modern women are delaying the process of settling down to "focus on their careers" when the reality is that they need to do both simultaneously. Not arguing your point. Just saying we seem to have a lot of women who are 40 and have purposefully never married at all. As much as progressive feminism tells us we can have it all, we really can't.
What works is people with similar backgrounds and beliefs joining together at a young age, taking their vows seriously, and growing up together through the difficulties of life. This aligns with biological reality, forces men to grow up, and gives women the security they still desire. Children should naturally result from this and everyone involved has a path, if they choose it, to a life that will provide them with meaning and purpose through old age.
There are other paths, but that is the one we were designed for (either by God or evolution). IMO
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:28 am to HouseMom
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I mean just the fact that modern women are delaying the process of settling down to "focus on their careers" when the reality is that they need to do both simultaneously.
This is correct and I'm not sure why women don't think they can do it. I know plenty of hyper-successful women who have children and never delayed their careers. My wife has a successful career and we never delayed children.
I think these women use their careers as an excuse, but they really don't want to sacrifice their time and energy to raising children.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:29 am to Bourre
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A co-worker of mine is getting a divorce because she and her husband agreed not to have kids and after almost of 20 years of marriage and focusing on their careers, she now wanted children in their mid 40’s. He didn’t want her o go down that road and was content with their lives
i have some friends that are HS sweethearts (been married probably 15 years now) where he wanted kids and she didn't. they settled on fun nomadic lifestyle and no kids.
she pursued an academic career and he followed her around putting his life on hold for a decade. they sold their exceptionally nice house (for people in their late 20s) and moved to live in a tiny downtown apartment close to her university. he eventually stopped hanging out with most of us because the rest started having kids and she didn't really want to be around kids at that time.
one friend went to go see him a few years back and said he's miserable AF but will never divorce her.
not saying it's wrong that they're not having children. she's a selfish person and would probably be a terrible mother. but i would expect them to divorce in the next few years TBH.
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